Quoting: x_wingSo, should we say that Linux is a system V emulator as well?

Not really, since it directly implements interfaces to be used as system ones. Wine emulates Windows interfaces through Linux ones.

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Quoting: anewsonreading further down on the thread I'm back to being confused about it :grin:

Wine emulates Windows, so it is an emulator of it. But some can't understand the term except in the context of emulating hardware, so they probably insisted that "Wine is not an emulator [of hardware]". I don't really care about their issue and have no problem with calling Wine an emulator [of software, namely Windows].

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Quoting: Nociferit's a given fact nowadays that for the foreseeable future "gaming on Linux" = "gaming on Proton/Wine". Forget native ports, let alone native development from scratch, no one is willing to invest in that (I wouldn't either).

I disagree. Look at Godot. They are investing into Linux development of their engine fine and it will enable more native games.

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Yep, that's exactly my point. Even if they'll try, it will take them years to make something new like that. I expect them simply to take Wine and adapt it to their needs, similarly to how Valve did it.

But hey, if they want to make their own translation layer - the more the merrier, as long as it will be open source. Wine can benefit from that too then.

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Indeed. Wine is a Windows emulator. No need to dance around the fact that it's not emulating hardware.

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I'm highly skeptical they'll pull off their own Wine alternative there without reusing anything. But I guess we'll see.

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Picked it too. Another highlight - Jotun.

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So in essence controller support is tied to Steam so far. At least good one.

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A question to experts. How do non Steam games work with controllers on the Deck? Is controller support untied from Steam? Same question for all controls, like pads, touchscreen and so on.

And do game developers need to provide controller support that takes in account Deck hardware, or it's detected as generic controller of some sort or some other way?

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Quoting: MayeulCThat was unexpected. PowerVR until now has been the single worst GPU vendor I can think of. Worse OSS support than nvidia...

Not that surprising. Mesa reached the point where vendors making new drivers can actually save money by not reinventing the wheel. NIR is really the key component for it from what I understand. They mostly focus on NIR to GPU specific machine code compiler, and Mesa does the heavy lifting of SPIR-V to NIR compiler part.

Why it's easier to work with NIR was explained here well:
https://www.jlekstrand.net/jason/blog/2022/01/in-defense-of-nir/ [External Link]

See also this interesting thread with comments from Mesa developers:
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2022-January/225652.html [External Link]

I.e. it's not like Imagination suddenly decided they like FOSS, it's just pragmatically actually beneficial for them now that even their bean counters could be persuaded. That said, I didn't know that point of Mesa value has been reached already. This shows that it has.

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