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Latest Comments by Shmerl
Google plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia
11 Mar 2022 at 9:02 pm UTC

I've been talking about those who made the project change its description. Seriously not interested in wasting time on this anymore.

Emulation can mean emulating software. Those who don't like this or don't get it can move along. Arguing with them is a complete waste of time.

Google plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia
11 Mar 2022 at 8:12 pm UTC

Quoting: EikeYou've got the whole thread at your disposal to cite all those. Nobody here was defining it this way,
And I'm not talking about people here, but about those who were originally annoyed at Wine calling itself an emulator, causing it to be rebranded as "not an emulator". So not sure what your point is exactly. None of these people are here I presume.

Google plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia
11 Mar 2022 at 7:45 pm UTC

Quoting: EikeNobody said anything about hardware except you.
Not true. All those who got hung up on "Wine is not an emulator" were busy defining emulator as something that has to emulate CPU architecture and such. While the meaning of the word emulate never had to be limited to what they wanted.

Google plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia
11 Mar 2022 at 5:36 pm UTC

I don't see a discussion in this really and any issue with using a broad meaning of emulates. No one said emulates only can refer to hardware, except for some who decided to limit the meaning for some weird reason.

Google plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia
11 Mar 2022 at 4:15 am UTC

Quoting: x_wingSo, should we say that Linux is a system V emulator as well?
Not really, since it directly implements interfaces to be used as system ones. Wine emulates Windows interfaces through Linux ones.

Google plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia
11 Mar 2022 at 2:57 am UTC Likes: 1

Quoting: anewsonreading further down on the thread I'm back to being confused about it :grin:
Wine emulates Windows, so it is an emulator of it. But some can't understand the term except in the context of emulating hardware, so they probably insisted that "Wine is not an emulator [of hardware]". I don't really care about their issue and have no problem with calling Wine an emulator [of software, namely Windows].

Google plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia
10 Mar 2022 at 11:36 pm UTC Likes: 3

Quoting: Nociferit's a given fact nowadays that for the foreseeable future "gaming on Linux" = "gaming on Proton/Wine". Forget native ports, let alone native development from scratch, no one is willing to invest in that (I wouldn't either).
I disagree. Look at Godot. They are investing into Linux development of their engine fine and it will enable more native games.

Google plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia
10 Mar 2022 at 7:18 pm UTC Likes: 1

Yep, that's exactly my point. Even if they'll try, it will take them years to make something new like that. I expect them simply to take Wine and adapt it to their needs, similarly to how Valve did it.

But hey, if they want to make their own translation layer - the more the merrier, as long as it will be open source. Wine can benefit from that too then.

Google plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia
10 Mar 2022 at 6:12 pm UTC Likes: 1

Indeed. Wine is a Windows emulator. No need to dance around the fact that it's not emulating hardware.

Google plans their own version of Wine to run Windows games on Stadia
10 Mar 2022 at 5:00 pm UTC Likes: 3

I'm highly skeptical they'll pull off their own Wine alternative there without reusing anything. But I guess we'll see.