Another good thing they are planning is to actually allow some configuration of it for desktop use, with an on-screen keyboard. They specifically mentioned people using it for a media PC

Well, the on-screen keyboard already works in desktop mode (press the stick) and I think the media controls buttons on the key select screen are new, so it's pretty much here already :D

Better config sharing and community configs for non-Steam games is awesome; access to a joined pool of all your configs would be great as well, so one can have, for example, the same config for all one's FPS games.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: CybolicYes, yes, but what about Total WarHammer?! :D (I know that's not the title, but it should have been)

It is coming, just no idea on when:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/364360/discussions/0/611704531883847638/ [External Link]

Oh damn! I completely missed that! I just kept seeing the Windows logo on the Steam pre-order page and that made me not want to look more into it out of sheer disappointment. Stupid Windows logo... *grumble*

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Yes, yes, but what about Total WarHammer?! :D (I know that's not the title, but it should have been)

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Quoting: Xelancer

Quoting: BonsWhat to you guys think?,If you see this from a average consumer perspective for once, and don´t look with you Linux glasses on.

3 Reasons Steam Machines are better than Sony and MS consoles and 1 day someone will remind "average consumers" they at least have a choice now (which is better than no choice)! [...]

Precisely. I think everyone has to remember to see the bigger picture here. This is much less about Windows vs SteamOS/Linux and much more about getting rid of proprietary console platforms and exclusives and levelling the playing field for the consumer; meaning (in the future) if a game comes out, it comes out for your "PC" and for your SteamOS console, no more vendor lock-in and, hopefully when Vulcan arrives, no more bad "console ports" (like the latest Batman).

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Quoting: PublicNuisanceI give every new game 3 months before I even think of buying them and this is why. Not saying I think releasing games in this state is alright, just that it's what I have come to expect. Hopefully patches are in route.

Patches are already in; it's working.

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It runs now. There's a bit of visual flickering with dynamic lights enabled and there's no Steam Controller support, but it works.

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Quoting: nattydreadWhy is openGL slower under linux than windows?
I'm surprised by that!

Thanks for all the answers!

It's not, but the game-specific optimisations that are in the Windows driver are not enabled in the Linux driver.
Apart from that, depending on how the game is written, the performance will differ between Linux and Windows, sometimes better on Linux, sometimes better on Windows. Here are some recent test results as an example. [External Link]

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The one thing that made me really chuckle, was talk about performance. According to the Alienware rep there's no performance "degradation" on SteamOS. We all know most ports perform worse than they do on Windows, so it's marketing speak at its finest. Again, Vulkan is going to certainly help, as will Alienware/Valve and others talking directly to Nvidia/AMD/Intel to improve their drivers for OpenGL too.

To be fair, he does seem to mean performance degradation at the driver level, which seems correct.

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Quoting: PublicNuisance[...]I can't find anywhere on their homepage, trailer or facebook page where they mention Linux though.[...]

It doesn't seem to be anywhere on their site, their Facebook page or their Google+ profile, but it's on the description page on Ulule [External Link].

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: neowiz73I still don't understand what made them have to lose the Linux symbol. their game seemed no different than many other ports. Nevertheless, it has always worked great for me on multiple distributions.

If it didn't launch correctly on SteamOS, the icon will be removed by Valve.

Trine 3 has their icon though, strangely enough, since they use a launcher and their menus don't work with a gamepad (nor a pen tablet, so I'm out of luck); the only reason I can play it is my Steam Controller (which defaults to gamepad mode for Trine 3, so it doesn't work "out of the box" ).

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