Quoting: SalvatosThat was to be expected. If Valve don't have the workforce to vet every game that is added to the store in the first place, they certainly won't pay an army to retroactively test everything on even one "standard" Linux configuration. I'll be surprised if we get more than a handful of additions to the list per month. That's why I'm curious to know how they choose which games to vet first, and why I was surprised to see something like Commander Keen there.

THIS. I seriously doubt Valve is expecting immediate returns here. This is a long term project that is really more about planting seeds. If you build it they will come. We've already seen the trend among dual-booters is that they are going to ditch their Windows installs, if not on their current rig, then on their next one. So the dual booters are on board. When that finishes shaking out in the next year or so our marketshare could go from .58% last month to .78% this month to maybe even 2% by end of 2020. By 2025 we are looking at possibly 10%, which is higher than Apple.

Microsoft seems damned determined to do it's best to help out. I mean they are even pushing mandatory system updates that they know will delete random files on a certain percentage of machines. We couldn't ask for more.

So be patient, and be of good cheer. All we need is for Valve to continue at a lazy pace and we'll win.

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Quoting: Solitary

Quoting: Cyba.CowboySo in other words, if you're not a Sam & Max fan, it's actually a pretty small list.

Strange, considering there's apparently a lot more games which have complete "platinum" results [External Link]... I would have thought that many of those would be added to the "whitelist" in the next update.

I think it's obvious that they are not whitelisting just because someone somewhere says it's good enough. SPCR list has its limits, often not fully tested and it's opinion-based rather than factual. Valve is most likely doing proper QA on their own and it takes time.

Very likely. For example, I just played through Alan Wake again. It was getting Platinum ratings. I tried it, and while it worked there were pretty noticeable problems. It likes to crash. Enabling any AA at all turned the grass into blocks. There were constant graphical glitches. I finished the game, and The Signal tack-on episodes, and as much as I like the game there's no way it should be white-listed. White-listing should be reserved purely for games that "just-work" on the majority of major distros like Ubuntu, Fedora, Manjaro, etc, without any need for special launch options or non-working graphical features.

Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: g000hI'm a long term Debian user, and I use it properly... i.e. I install the packages from the regular repositories so that my system doesn't get messed up. I have tried backports and all sorts of things in the past, but generally find that forcing a later graphics driver onto the system ends up borking it.

I'm kind of in the same boat. I'm on Mint, but it's only offering me 340.107 and 390.48 so I'd rather stick to that. Didn't someone say that the newer drivers were only necessary for Vulkan games anyway, or something along those lines?

I'm on Fedora 28, and I really think that has helped me in this case because it's a royal pain to set up Fedora for proprietary drivers, and those are the only drivers worth using with a newer NVIDIA card.

https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2015/fedora-nvidia-guide/ [External Link]

I'm running 396.54.06, pretty much just because why not? This guide only has to be followed once. Once you've blacklisted and removed Noveau changing to newer NVIDIA drivers is easy. You really should be familiar with VIM to do so, though. I don't know how this translates to a debian based distro like Mint or Ubuntu because I know that they both handle graphics drivers in the gui.

Recommend this : https://www.openvim.com/ [External Link]

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Quoting: wojtek88I was little bit skeptical last weeks, as it was looking like in September after making Steam Play official for all Steam Linux clients, Valve was not putting a lot of work in Proton, it was outdated while comparing to DXVK and while comparing to Wine.
Now Proton uses almost newest DXVK, Wine I guess was not updated yet, but Whitelisting takes place, which makes me happy.
Hope Valve pushes forward Steam Play each day, each week, each month. It's good to be Linux gamer this year.

They didn't commit to two years of work just to abandon it one month into launch. Honestly Valve is on the hook for this for years and at this point may be doing this just to see if they can actually shift the OS marketshare with GAMES. It's long been theorized that OS succeed or fail based on that, this is an interesting experiment.

Personally, I'm in agreement with Bryan Lunduke, Linux would not be anywhere near as mature as it is without Microsoft angering everyone. It's not enough to have a place to run to, you have to have something to run from. And like with this latest Win10 update that was deleting files thanks to a bug that they apparently knew about for months and yet they still rolled it out, Microsoft is doing exactly what Valve is counting on. Microsoft just being itself will provide all the inspiration needed for the resources allocated to Proton+DXVK+MESA to actually pay off.

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Just chiming in, Overload is the true sequel to the Descent series made by people that worked on it. They just can't use the name Descent. If you love 6 degree movement games, and can only afford one, this is the one to get, and not only because it has a native Linux port.

Overload Review (6 Degrees Of Awesome) - Gggmanlives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSjxmiZpf7M [External Link]

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Quoting: dibzBetter .Net support would be HUGE for Wine, it's the bane of any linux user's winesperience. That and old windows kernel-level DRM, anyway.

Right now there are bunch of .net games that run on WINE that don't run on Proton. Arkham Asylum and Arkham Knight spring to mind.

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I just want System 76 to add Purism's hardware killswitches to their laptops. Maybe even an all-AMD laptop - like a Ryzen 7 /Vega64 combo machine. Maybe with the new 7nm parts next year.

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I didn't graduate to the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race to use a thumb pad. Mouse and Keyboard..... except when I'm playing an emulated NES/SNES/GENESIS game. Those were just made for controllers. And thanks to SC controller my Steam controller seems to work for that.

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Just checked, I already have it, too. I honestly didn't notice that it was upscaled from 720p when I played it on my 45in 1080p TV.

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Quoting: TheSyldat

Quoting: tonRp/s: I'm suspicious.. All this bullshit happen on weird time where technology world nearing "the junction" ... Coincidence??

Honestly, you shouldn't apologize. You've noticed a trend that has been affecting pretty much every major tech entity. It was bound to hit Linux sometime.

To be clear, I don't think it's some goberment or deepstate conspiracy. It's just a lot individuals with similar and often disastrous ideological backgrounds who's goals and desires line up, so they help each other get to the top.

I don't smell government involvement in this. This year some amazing things happened to Linux that have put it on track to overtaking Apple in marketshare within a decade. Linux has grown up, and that's a problem for anyone that wants computers locked down and users chained up inside an ecosystem. SO, no, I don't think this is government, I would much sooner look to Google, as the James Demore debacle proves is ideologically supportive of this, and more importantly, this year Microsoft bought a seat at the table in the Linux world. Even if they had nothing directly to do with this, I promise you they are celebrating as the Linux world is torn apart by the assault of rabid SJWs. I have no evidence at all of Microsoft's involvment, but the timing is interesting, and there's just a vague feeling for whatever that's worth.

M$ and Google are both walled-garden companies. This year Linux started playing Windows games and next year Purism launches a Linux smartphone that uses nothing from Android and completely bypasses Google entirely(or Microsoft). Both companies already have what they wanted from their own dabbles with Linux, so why not toss in a bunch of fuel and an emergency flare to try to light it?

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https://lulz.com/linux-devs-threaten-killswitch-coc-controversy-1252/ [External Link]

The controversy
Activists from the feminist and LGBTQIA+ communities have been trying to force the Linux project to join the Contributor Covenant since at least 2015. The Contributor Covenant is an agreement to implement a special Code of Conduct (frequently CoC from now on) aimed at changing the predominantly white, straight, and male face of programming. CC’s Code of Conduct is controversial particularly because it allows anyone to be banned from contributing code for any reason, usually with no mechanism for oversight or accountability.[emphasis mine]

On September 16 the pro-CoC side got their wish–Linux had officially committed to implementing and obeying the CC Code of Conduct–and they immediately set about using it to remove top Linux coders. Sage Sharp, who describes theyself as a “diversity & inclusion consultant, hufflepuff, non-binary agender trans masculine” ....

And there's nothing else to this. The CoC is weapon to use against people that are enemies of people like this Sage person mentioned in the quote. End of story.

6. “‘In all that time I never had to know or care whether my fellow contributors were white, black, male, female, straight, gay, or from the planet Mars, only whether their code was good’; namely, in a project that receives contributions from volunteers who are anonymous beyond a chosen handle, specious claims of exclusion and harassment crumble beneath the most haphazard scrutiny. Contributors reveal as much about their race, sex, and orientation as they want because no one cares about that tangential shit at the end of the day. If there really was some “straight white males only” mentality, the community would insist on determining whether a new contributor is “one of us” before accepting their code, but they don’t do that in the slightest. Thus, it’s patently clear there is no culture of exclusion, but rather a culture of total indifference to individual differences beyond coding ability. The rhetoric of diversity and inclusiveness is just a weapon being used to attack a community that is inherently opposed to identity politics, which is why they’re seen as such a threat to these SJW gestapo.”

Again, this is about the mediocre people seizing control of that which they cannot create or possibly even maintain and don't want to put the effort into making their own nest, but would rather swoop in, kick everybody else out and take it as their own.

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