Already wishlisted and I can't do anymore than that until I get a new job. So if anyone is hiring an almost-RHCSA in Oregon who also can't code yet, please let me know. :)

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Quoting: GuestI just want to know if the Wine fruit is hanging low enough now that any game developers who previously haven't supported us are starting to plan on officially supporting Linux via that path, such as Bethesda and id software. Bring on that tux/SteamOS icon so we can throw them our bux!

I don't agree with this. I am Valve's biggest cheerleader in this project, but I am absolutely against the idea of giving Proton the Linux/SteamOS icon. Perhaps a brand new Proton icon is in order, but the SteamOS icon should be reserved strictly for native ports only. The two should remain separate if only to make everybody stop and realize just how much work is going into this. I like the warning signs telling the user that this is running on SteamPlay. First the public pressure will be on the publishers to put in the token effort to help Valve get their game working. Then the pressure will be on native ports with only the worst devs relying on Proton which should be pretty close to a native experience by that point. But the two need to remain separate for that to happen.

As for the current state of Proton, there are a bunch of games that still require special launch options and I believe we need to find some efficient way to document that and keep that documentation current. But more to the point we need to keep track of the growing list of titles that just work, because seamless integration is the point here. The point of this is not to have to hassle with wine prefixes and such. I have no doubt Valve will keep this going until we get there, but until then we need to do our part.

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So this game is basically the original Mortal Kombat except that it really doesn't seem to take itself as seriously?

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Quoting: jensI still remember my own words a year ago https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/what-games-do-you-want-ported-to-linux-feral-interactive-want-to-know-again.10139/comment_id=99838

I'm now playing GTA5 and Assetto Corsa. ROTTR was a beautiful port from Feral and I guess ED is just around the corner too. Magic!
Thank you so much for everyone involved!

PS: I had my doubts with the effects of DXVK in the beginning, fearing that Linux will become more and more invisible behind wine, but now knowing that Proton counts as Linux I'm all in.

So far for me it's mostly been DOOM. I got Sleeping Dos Definitive working for about five minutes before it crashed and never ran again. Probably already been fixed. I delivered a few "stable" ratings to the compatibility spreadsheet, too. What I noticed is that I could use WINE+DXVK+Lutris to get Far Cry 3 working, and the Rocksteady Arkham games working, but Proton still doesn't work with any of them, and it isn't DXVK getting in the way. Side note, the Arkham Origins seems to work perfectly Proton, so yay, you can play the placeholder cash-in title with the broken combat system and recast voice actors but not the other three that you actually want to play. Oh, well.

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Quoting: GuestIt's sad that people would be upset that Proton is a separate project than Wine. Valve has in my opinion done everything right with this....

The very first thing I noticed was a small but vocal bunch arguing about who deserves the credit for this and that. It's petty, and everything being done by Valve is furthering the growth of the Linux user base so I say hail the big company as a hero because it's brought all of the disparate pieces together at their own expense to give us a better deal overall. Valve's goal is to not let Microsoft wall off Windows. Our goal is to grow Linux to the point that we get native ports automatically because we are large enough to cater to. Our goals do not conflict in any way because Valve and Linux both benefit in every outcome.

So who cares who gets the attaboys as long as it gets done?

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Quoting: EndeavourAccuracyUnless I'm mistaken, Beat Saber uses DirectX and OpenVR (for Vive), which means DXVK is part of what allows me to play the game on Linux with Proton. I'm quite happy with Valve's request and your work.

Yep, Beat Saber uses the DXVK+OpenVR combo. It was the game for me to work with, and it was a pain to get it to work because of how VR initialization works. In case of Vulkan, you need to enable certain device and instance extensions, which basically requires initialization to happen in a specific order, but D3D11 doesn't have *any* restrictions on that, so a lot of trickery was required to get it to work.

I don't know who you are exactly, but whatever part you had in this THANK YOU. This may just seem like just a game thing, but that game thing will open up the world to a future without being dependent on any big tech giant like Microsoft or Apple. We cannot thank any of you enough for that.

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The thing that I noticed a while ago about the indie game scene.... lacking the manpower to to do something that pushes photorealism, they instead have to figure out how to more with less, and it almost always turns out to be far more visually interesting than the AAA console fodder.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeTropico 5 (latest) is native for Linux and doesn't need such things. And if Valve is not currently looking at Mac support for Proton, it just sort of reaffirms what I've always thought. People who have Macs do not game on said Macs. I'll throw out that probably 70% of macs wouldn't even be able to handle most newer games (I know I tried Total War: Attila on my work provided one and I think it may have gotten one frame every 10 seconds...) and that makes it a niche of a niche. It's like people who game under Linux with VR hardware :P

It's worse than that. Apple isn't just a non-gaming platform, Apple is refusing open API's and forcing developers to use an Apple standard maintaining their walled garden(METAL). Valve meanwhile is dependent on open standards to make this initiative work. SteamPlay+Proton requires especially Vulkan and even opengl(despite it's name, opengl is not as cross-platfrom friendly as people think where Vulkan was designed specifically for that). It cannot be done any other way.

Apple has their fiefdom, and that's the end of it, and everything that comes with that is why Apple has never broken 10% of the over-all userbase of Microsoft. Microsoft wants to do the same thing but paradoxically is so big that it can't do so easily and is far more vulnerable to having their plans scuttled. What Valve has just done is to break down the wall Microsoft had around Windows gaming, leaving only the Xbox for Microsoft to dominate.

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Honestly, it's really fun to watch this progress. There's been such a huge amount of excitement in the entire PC industry over this, it's crazy. It's going to be a while before we see what kind of impact it has, but this does give it time to mature for any scenario.

Well, I spent all day playing DOOM rather than setting up my ipa-server lab to practice for my upcoming RHCSA, and Steam just updated to 3.7-5 so I am kinda worried to start it up again lol. Anyway, this is going to be bumpy for a while. After all, how many times has a new version of WINE broken compatibility with a game? Figure by this time next year we it should be kind of difficult to find a game that doesn't work with Proton.

I found an article on Forbes about this the other day. FORBES. Microsoft can only interpret this as a shot against them, and anybody looking at it knows it. Valve may just be keeping Microsoft in check with Proton, but I'll take it. All I've been seeing over on overclock.net are people cheering about being able to ditch Windows.

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I have had DOOM on my Steam que for a year, saving it for a new build. To my amazement, my Phenom II [email protected]/1060GTX6GB combo is actually chewing through it smooth as glass at 1080p. I am using Vulkan. I even have AA on. The 70GB install was a really tough pill to swallow and the game will not stay on my HD long after I beat the campaign. But on point, DOOM really seems to be the idea candidate for Proton.

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Quoting: veccherPeople say that Vulkan is much "harder" than openGL, but i've learned a little bit of openGL and for me it was kinda messy, lots of global variables, openGL is not exactly easy, so Vulkan should be really hard.
I really would like to learn Vulkan and openCL and help some open source projects, don't know from where to start.

Well, I'm going to start with C/C++ and go from there. I think there's a coming demand for Vulkan code monkeys and I could use a raise.

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