HoI is quite hardcore even for Paradox. I think that's saying something

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Quoting: Quote from ShmerlDisharmonic: It might be true for some games (like with self contained directories) and might be not true for others (which have some installation scripts and etc.). Anyway, the lack of official support for such DRM free packages makes me consider Steam to be always DRMed (with ways to bypass it in cases when you can manually backup the game). It's the attitude that I consider bad the most, which is enough of a reason for me not to use Steam. In contrast, HB and GOG officially offer DRM-free packages and make an effort to support the usability of such approach.

Steam games are always contained within their folder. That is true even on windows and is part of how Steam actually handles updates afaik. I'm also not sure what attitude you mean. On the Steam platform DRM is an option, not a requirement. Of course Steam doesn't show which games use it's DRM and which not. That is something that they could and should improve upon.  

Quoting: Quote from torhamI agree with Shmeri, the ability to install in addition to play without asking permission from a 3rd party is a requirement for me.  Also, Steam DRM does hinder legitimate customers, consider what happens if your account gets banned or you just want to install on multiple devices without downloading the game again.

You can actually do the latter using Steam's backup ability. Getting banned is an issue but usually would require you to actually do something illegal, like fraud. Though i admit i had heard about some questionable bans several years back, but nothing recently.

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Quoting: Quote from ShmerlAny DRM is DRM, far or not. If the service closes down, and let's say you own a few thousands worth of games there, is it far that you won't be able to install any of them because you didn't have an option to back them up when you bought them? I know quite a few people who avoid using Steam just for that reason. Any DRM is bad.

Games on Steam without DRM are actually DRM-Free. You don't need to have the service running to play DRM-Free games and on Linux you can simply copy the game folder to create a backup of the game. You only need to run the client once, download your game and then you are done. FTL is an example of such a game. It's really not that different to using GoG or HB, the only difference is you're using a 3rd party download tool instead of your browser.

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So far my opinion is that it's potentially the best version of the series yet. You can get it a lot cheaper from etailers or competing online stores(GMG etc.)than on steam btw. This is a Steamworks title so all versions include steam keys.

Quoting: Quote from philip550cI wouldn't even know how to play this, I dont like sports, especially not football/soccer.
Any non-sports people out there play this and find it fun?

I wouldn't recommend it. This is a hardcore simulation and you have to be familiar with a lot of terminology and rules.

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Mainland China?

The game is not available in Germany due to licensing issues.

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