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Atari VCS to start shipping in March 2020 (backers get it in December), with a new website and store partners
12 Jun 2019 at 4:42 am UTC
12 Jun 2019 at 4:42 am UTC
Just curious what their supposed audience is. At that price? You'll get the next XBOX and Playstation by that time with much more powerful hardware.
WHAT THE GOLF? is another Linux game that's now going to the Epic Store first
11 Jun 2019 at 7:44 pm UTC Likes: 3
11 Jun 2019 at 7:44 pm UTC Likes: 3
Quoting: MaathSteam pays for a lot of stuff. Steam also lowers the cut if/when a developer/publisher reaches certain goals. The "30% vs. 12% comparison" isn't not entirely accurate, it's ridiculous and completely misleading.Quoting: gradyvuckovicThis is great info, and illustrates some things people should keep in mind when comparing Steam and EGS. I have read an article that estimates that Steam's cut of game sales averages less than 30% because they do not make any money off of keys sold or otherwise obtained outside of their store, so The 30% vs. 12% comparison is not entirely accurate. I think Steam's average cut was closer to 20%.Quoting: timgarbosDeveloper here. Totally get your concerns, but we are not trying to keep anything secret. Of course, we care about our backers and that's why we tell them the news before the general public. The news will be more public and is already publicly being discussed on our Discord.I think you should be careful with what you're doing. If these keys you're talking about giving backers allows them to play the game, which has NEVER been available for pre order or sale on Steam, and which won't be available for sale at any time in the near future, you are possibly breaking Valve's rules.
Anyways, thanks for keeping up to date. I'll let you know once we have Linux news.
Steamworks page regarding keys [External Link]
Note these relevant parts:
Valve provides the same free bandwidth and services to customers activating a Steam key that it provides to customers buying a license on Steam. We ask you to treat Steam customers no worse than customers buying Steam keys outside of Steam.Types of Keys
Keys can be associated with the following package types:
Standard
This is the most common type of key on Steam, which is usually tied to a store or Steam Key package. These keys are appropriate for retail boxes or sales on other sites. These keys will unlock the product once it has been released and marked as playable on Steam.
Release Override
These keys are used to grant access to a product prior to its release on Steam. Release Override keys are intended for small beta tests and press/influencer access. We will look at each request on a case by case basis, and in general less than 1000 keys work well for this purpose. It is never OK to sell release-override beta keys.You should use keys to sell your game on other stores in a similar way to how you sell your game on Steam. It is important that you don't give Steam customers a worse deal.We reserve the right to deny requests for keys or revoke key requesting privileges for partners that are abusing them or disadvantaging Steam customers.If we detect that you have requested an extreme number of keys and you aren't offering Steam customers a good value, we may deny your request.We reserve the right to remove key requesting privileges from any partner whose sole business is selling Steam keys and not providing value or a fair deal to Steam customers.Crowdfunding.I would say WTG is at bare minimum, skirting close to the boundaries of the rules, and possibly breaking them, if you offer Steam keys to backers to play the game a year early without offering the same option to Steam customers to buy the game.
Keys can be used to fulfill crowdfunding rewards and grant backers access to your product. Providing backers with beta testing keys prior to release is also OK, but only backers should receive those keys --they shouldn’t be sold outside of the crowdfunding campaign unless your beta is also available for sale via Steam.
Steam keys can only be promoted as a reward for products that have already confirmed Steam distribution --
It would be prudent to contact Valve and confirm that what you're doing is not breaking the rules, unless you want to risk having your key generating privileges revoked.. Food for thought.
Secondly, as the quoted lines above hint at, Steam provides other services. Where are buyers of this game going to post reviews? Where are buyers of this game going to be submitting bug reports? It sure doesn't seem fair that these guys will be making use of Valve's infrastructure without paying a dime for it (yet).
WHAT THE GOLF? is another Linux game that's now going to the Epic Store first
11 Jun 2019 at 5:15 pm UTC
11 Jun 2019 at 5:15 pm UTC
Quoting: mylkacan valve please remove all epic games from steamIt's not on the EGS forever.
and if they advertise their games on steam, they have to release it on steam on day 1, or else dont give them a steam page!
i mean shemmue 3 is epic exclusive forever and they still have a steam page
https://store.steampowered.com/app/878670/Shenmue_III/ [External Link]
WHAT THE GOLF? is another Linux game that's now going to the Epic Store first
11 Jun 2019 at 3:09 pm UTC
11 Jun 2019 at 3:09 pm UTC
Quoting: timgarbosDeveloper here. Totally get your concerns, but we are not trying to keep anything secret. Of course, we care about our backers and that's why we tell them the news before the general public. The news will be more public and is already publicly being discussed on our Discord.Did you btw. think about your future? Do you think Epic will pay your upfront again after this?
Anyways, thanks for keeping up to date. I'll let you know once we have Linux news.
WHAT THE GOLF? is another Linux game that's now going to the Epic Store first
11 Jun 2019 at 11:04 am UTC Likes: 12
How are more stores better when you offer the game on only one store?
11 Jun 2019 at 11:04 am UTC Likes: 12
Quoting: timgarbosDeveloper here. Totally get your concerns, but we are not trying to keep anything secret. Of course, we care about our backers and that's why we tell them the news before the general public. The news will be more public and is already publicly being discussed on our Discord.And you say "We get it if you’re not convinced by Epic Games Store. It’s lacking some features at the moment, but their team is hard at work and more stores is going to be great for both developers and players in the long run."
Anyways, thanks for keeping up to date. I'll let you know once we have Linux news.
How are more stores better when you offer the game on only one store?
WHAT THE GOLF? is another Linux game that's now going to the Epic Store first
11 Jun 2019 at 9:49 am UTC
11 Jun 2019 at 9:49 am UTC
:|
Confessing my continued love of the Steam Controller, a few years after release
8 Jun 2019 at 1:24 pm UTC
8 Jun 2019 at 1:24 pm UTC
I just want an updated version with SteamVR trackers, so that it can be seen in VR. That would be very very neat.
A look at all the good deals going ahead of the weekend, come find a bargain
17 May 2019 at 11:08 am UTC Likes: 6
17 May 2019 at 11:08 am UTC Likes: 6
Meanwhile Epic completely fucks up their sale?
https://kotaku.com/publishers-pull-their-games-from-epics-store-during-its-1834828248 [External Link]
They made the sales and not the developers/publishers? That's nuts.
https://kotaku.com/publishers-pull-their-games-from-epics-store-during-its-1834828248 [External Link]
They made the sales and not the developers/publishers? That's nuts.
Outer Wilds becomes another Epic Store exclusive for a limited time
12 May 2019 at 6:10 pm UTC Likes: 6
12 May 2019 at 6:10 pm UTC Likes: 6
Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet.
The Long Dark 'Steadfast Ranger' update out, working great on Linux now
7 May 2019 at 11:52 am UTC Likes: 2
7 May 2019 at 11:52 am UTC Likes: 2
The story is however not complete yet, right? It's sitting in my Steam library, but I don't really want to start until I can play all the way through.