Quoting: ArtenThere are several ways it can be queued for evaluation. Perhaps the most important thing is the developer can manually request a review. Valve will provide feedback, the developer can fix the problems and re-request an evaluation. Since games with verified status will get another place to show them, I assume that most will want to take advantage of it.

According to their FAQs, they expect the game to be evaluated within a few weeks of being queued up.

Even so, there are literally thousands of games on steam, and manually reviewing them will take a lot of time. Remember that this situation is different from something unofficial like Protondb, because this seal is Valve officially stating how well the game runs on deck so they can't mess up with it.

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Quoting: CatKillerValve have already said that developers can't opt out.

Thanks for clarifying

Quoting: CatKillerThey haven't said (AFAIK) that the "mark of shame" is coming to the desktop client

Personally I think they'll have to, just imagine someone buying a Deck only to discover latter that the game you have doesn't work with it, because not stating that the game won't run on it could open a grey area of lawsuits claiming "false advertising".

While I believe this is no problem for Valve itself (putting the mark of shame outside the deck), I expect some publishers to not like this decision and can result in some lawsuit or they leaving steam because of that.

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Quoting: kaimanImagine you never ever thought about releasing your game outside a traditional Windows environment and now the #1 distribution platform is telling you: "hey, we have this new handheld device that's running a totally different OS, and we're putting a mark of shame on your game should it not work well on that".

Good point, this could open the possibility of developers requesting to "opt-out" the review process, claiming that this will give "bad PR" to their games, or making Valve to only show this evaluation system for those running the client on deck / linux (and hiding completely from windows users for example).

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Quoting: Liam DaweValve made it pretty clear they are ultimately the ones who make the ratings.

This will going to take a while then, giving "how few games" they have on the store so there's a possibility that we only really see those ratings mostly from famous ones, unless Valve has some kind toolkit to at least partially automate the process.

As long as they don't stagnate as they did with their "white list", I actually prefer they to be responsible for the ratings.

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Finally they're making sure general public knows which game runs or can't run inside the client, without having to search about it somewhere else. This will be very useful for developers to support the platform by seeing that their "competitors" are doing the same.

The only thing that's not clear is who will evaluate if each game meets the requirements: The consumers, the developers or (most unlikely) Valve itself?

Sometime ago I've suggested Valve on their github to discriminate in the status when someone is playing a game using a compatibility tool [External Link] in order to make the "Steam play" concept better known to player outside the Linux bubble, unfortunately they didn't gave me any attention but I guess this could work too :smile:

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how feasible is it to run KDE wayland in an old notebook with pentium T4200?

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Quoting: slaapliedjeI thought this happened a long time ago (the removal of Games for Windows).

Ironically this only happened after Microsoft itself bought the company :grin:

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Also Liam, do you plan to cover something on "O3DECon" about the O3DE gaming engine?

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Always good to remind everyone who wants to play it to install the "unofficial fallout 3 patch" with fixes made from the community, since every Todd Howard's game is notoriously known for dropping support without fix the bugs.

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Quoting: ShabbyXI wonder why they didn't instead try and make eventfd more effiecient?

Probably because they would have the burden of not breaking software depending on early versions, same reason of why they called it "futex2" instead of just modify the original futex.

With futex2 they have all the freedom they need without have to worry about legacy compatibility.

Quoting: nenoroI thought it was already in Zen Kernel and maybe Xanmod ?

Yes but those are not the "official kernel linux", or in another words they are linux kernels with custom patches (like Wine and Proton or Proton and Proton GE for example)

What changed in this case is that futex2 will also be part of the official kernel, so any distro using the mainline kernel 5.16+ will have support to futex2 by default, without the necessity of custom patches (commonly called "out of tree") like Xanmod does for example.

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