Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: Quote from liamdaweIf it's compatible with at least Ubuntu then I think Linux gaming will utterly explode next year.

I wonder what their plans long term are, in regards to Wayland vs Mir. For now it's going to be Xorg simply because there aren't any drivers for Wayland/Mir yet. But in the future they'll have to make a choice.

true, choose between alienating ubuntu users or rest of the linux world, saying as they only officially support ubuntu it will probably be that which is a shame as I don't see other distro's using Mir since the licensing issue and more important that there is no promise for a stable frozen api.

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Quoting: Sabun

Quoting: QuoteCould this be dangerous for the desktop Linux client?

To me it sounds like another Linux distro, except it's aiming for the desktop aggressively (like Ubuntu) and has financial backing from Valve. I'm actually pretty excited to try it out once it's downloadable.

no its not, its an OS based to stream from your PC to your TV

nm, I stand corrected, its both, stream and install those linux steam games on it, still not enough

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ha :)

Quoting: Bumadar on September 21, 2013 at 12:24 pm- a box which is like the Vita TV [External Link], a small boxed (in this case on a linux based OS) which you hook up to our tv and it will stream your steam games to that, that would solve the issue of windows users losing all their games as you basicly still play on you pc no matter what it will be.

its sad for linux as a gaming platform, as you stated Liam it will not give an incentive to make linux games, but for valve its the only thing that makes sense as they can't afford to lose the windows users.

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Quoting: liamdaweI highly doubt they will make it lose compatibility with mainstream desktop distro's.

Games would need to be recompiled for them yet again if they did an Android type of thing later on, if they where going to do that they would do it from the start.

They already have their own locked down store - Steam itself, they don't need to lock out the OS later on when they have the store that everyone has to use for Steam games anyway.

they would not need to recompile if they keep on a linux based OS but they can customise gfx drivers, sdl libraries etc to get the best out of that box.  it can easly becomes its own eco system.    They can not remain compatible with mainstream desktops for long once Mir on one side and Wayland on the other side will replace X

anyways, been thinking a bit more and got 2 options:

- a box with a linux based OS but sort of locked and going its own way in the end so its a fixed thing against which big AAA publisher can work again.

- a box which is like the Vita TV [External Link], a small boxed (in this case on a linux based OS) which you hook up to our tv and it will stream your steam games to that, that would solve the issue of windows users losing all their games as you basicly still play on you pc no matter what it will be.

a well time will tell.

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had loads and loads of fun with this on the PS3, actually with all pixeljunk games

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Quoting: Mike Frett@Bumadar And who is to say it won't become some 'Android' type thing in the future, where it becomes incompatible with Desktop Linux?.

aye, sort of was my point, it will start of compatible and based on, but will go its own way if it wants to succeed

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Quoting: SpeedsterDon't you think they might be working on a low-end model of Steambox with the latest-greatest onboard Intel graphics?

the latest and greatest intel graphics are still not even close to the power of amd/nvidia sadly, so no I don't think that.  You want it to be a success then you need the big titles and those need big power.

Which still leaves the issue of people with hundreds (if not more) of windows games who wont be able to play those on a linux based box, so why would they get one ?  I don't see valve going with windows on their steambox though, not after what they said about win8.    Still on a box with fixed hardware/OS a codeweaver port will always work, so that's an option.

Quoting: BladeforceAlso if it is true that you can tinker and customize the OS in Steambox then that will be awesome

imagine the support nightmare on that one.....

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Why does a steambox based on linux have to be a good thing for linux as a gaming platform ?

Valve will bring out a small box with specific hardware with an OS based on linux and tuned for just that hardware, at first the difference between the SteamOS and Linux will be small, but as time goes on that gap will only increase as they will tweak the GPU drivers (binary blob else nvidia or amd won't help making them faster and more efficient) and other things and it would not surprise me if in the end you will get a Windows, Apple, Linux and Steambox logo on game pages as tweaks and changes to make a game work better will only be on the Steambox drivers.  

sorry if this sounds to negative but if they want to succeed then a dedicated box like the PS4 (based on openBSD) or XBone is the only way to go and to get the big publishers on-board because without them there won't be many AAA titles and without AAA titles then won't be much incentive for the masses to buy a steambox based on linux if they can't play the latest Watchdog or GTA game.

I think its naive to think they will put a generic ubuntu/fedora/opensuse on that box with the opensource drivers and steam pre-installed.

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its on the weekly humble bundle this week together with duke

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Quoting: Valczirbut Dark Souls II may push me over the edge.  If I can't get it to run in Wine ... I may actually make a windows partition just for that one game.  It kind of depends on what the verdict is when it comes out.

Daemon souls and Dark Souls, both played in the PS3 so probably gone stick to that for Dark Souls 2.  I can't remember any game where I cursed more about my mistakes, turned of the system more frustrated but always came back, they are unforgiving but they are brilliant :)

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