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AirJet from Frore Systems could be great cooling for a Steam Deck 2

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If there's one thing I truly want from a Steam Deck 2 aside from the usual performance related upgrades, it would be better cooling and less noise. Perhaps the new AirJet from Frore Systems is what Valve could use.

What is it? According to Frore Systems the AirJet is a "fully self-contained active heat sink module, which is silent, thin, and light". This was revealed a little while ago at CES but interest in it is heating up again now, as they've revealed the first system coming with it in the ZOTAC ZBOX PI430AJ.

They're targeting many different types of devices including handheld gaming like the Steam Deck. Quite an exciting idea to have more space for other things since it's so small, a smaller slot would be needed for the intake and vent so less of your snack crumbs and dust would get in, reduced heat and being a whole lot quieter overall too. Although, it would push prices a bit no doubt.

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tpau Jun 1, 2023
Or any other competitor :)
I personally would love to see this grow into a product that works with a desktop computer so you can have a silent, dustproof gaming rig without having to worry about cooling liquid leaking anywhere
const Jun 1, 2023
Watching this and the LTT video, I think this would be a quite massive redesign. You can get rid of the heatsink on the processor, but what about the other parts currently connected to the sink? Also, if you just replaced the fan with *more battery*, what about weight distribution?
From LTT specifically, I took that the chassis needs to be optimized to make it actually silent, else these little drummers can introduce a very unpleasant pitch.
Anyway, cool tech and hopefully Valve can make a good deal with them for a successor, be it SteamDeck2 or Pro :)


Last edited by const on 1 June 2023 at 9:59 pm UTC
Botonoski Jun 3, 2023
If the next Steam Deck contained this tech I'd buy it in a heartbeat. The deck is powerful enough that I'm sure I'll be gaming on it for quite a few years, but if they released a smaller lighter and quieter but just as powerful model tomorrow... Yeah, I'd waste my money.
Scattershot Jun 3, 2023
Quoting: miltoid19I must agree that the AirJet would be ideal in the steam deck, but my understanding is that at least for the near future the AirJet is targeted at premium models since the cost (at least for now) is quite high and this contradicts Valves' way of trying to keep the price low... Referring to the Quote “painful to hit” requiring the margins.

How much do these things cost? Even if it bumped the cost by £5, or £10, is anyone going to care, or even notice?
Ardje Jun 4, 2023
Quoting: ScattershotHow much do these things cost? Even if it bumped the cost by £5, or £10, is anyone going to care, or even notice?
I thought it was now around $1000 per module. They are currently litographic 3D printed, which does not convert to $5 more yet.
Despite that, they are produced and you can buy them. That's more advanced than Sodium batteries that you still can't buy.
I hope there are enough people with deep pockets to keep the research flowing.
Seems like an ideal solution for liquid/gas pumps in electro/heat technology, where you want even the last part to be free of leaking pumps.
Marlock Jun 7, 2023
arguably the first "solid-state active cooling" solution ever sold is peltier, but it's very W intensive and doesn't get rid of the air renewal issue around heatsinks which this targets

there is also a very cool air-movement by ionization and electric attraction/repulsion method (corona effect) that was technically solid-state... it has proven a bit problematic, especially near eletronic components
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-03447-w

where do they explain the working principle for their thing?
edit: the datasheet pdfs have more info in how it works... pretty clever


Last edited by Marlock on 8 June 2023 at 6:37 pm UTC
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