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I'll probs be getting an x570 mobo, not just for the PCIe4, but for all the little speed improvements likely to be on board: improved RAM frequency, USB3, NVMe M2, etc.
Your comment about how RAM frequency matters with AMD really jumped out at me. That's exactly the sort of insight I was hoping to get by posting this subject. I've got some decent Corsair sticks in there now, but I've no idea what their frequency is. I'll be taking a closer look now, so I'm glad you mentioned that.
I'm pleased, too, to hear your comment about how I might see a jump in FPS from my 1070. I just bought that last year and will be keeping it for the foreseeable future, so it's very exciting to think it'll see new life with my decision to get an AMD CPU! Thanks again! :)
Last edited by Nanobang on 31 January 2020 at 1:15 pm UTC
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The most 'official' pronouncement that AMD ever made on the topic, is I think the following reddit AMA with AMD engineers: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x4hxu/we_are_amd_creators_of_athlon_radeon_and_other/def6vs2?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x Otherwise there's a dearth of information; at most you get a forum or reddit thread that devolves after a couple of comments into a quarrel between people who are clearly out of their depth, and people who know stuff but can't be bothered to explain anything to their less fortunate peers.
here is a comparison on windows a 4790k vs 3600 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjHr78q9FY .... So I was wrong, definitely there is an improvement, but not the amount I was thinking. I guess when I upgraded it was a combo of stuff in my case that made my fps jump, I was running a really cheap AM3 mobo and my ddr3 memories didn't have the best speeds. But anyways in some games even on that video there is 20% (yeah I know on other games is less)... I remember that what improved a LOT for me was OpenGL games, vulkan games didn't improve that much in comparison.
EDIT: here is a more accurate comparison of a 3700X vs i7 4790k...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dCiGVKKloY
so yeah your mileage may vary but right there is an improvement of 20% at least on mostly every game (with the exception of the witcher 3 at 4K) and as much as 30%/35% ... it's clear that with 2070 or a 2080 the 4790 bottlenecks a lot.
(the guy is using a x570 and ddr4 3600 mhz ram)
imho looking at these benchmarks seems to me that the 3700x is the cpu you should get at least, getting weaker cpus is not worth it.
Last edited by Koopacabras on 30 January 2020 at 3:32 pm UTC
too bad there is no budget x550 because that will probably be also good enough.
Last edited by Koopacabras on 30 January 2020 at 10:10 pm UTC
But then again, by the time I've saved that much, I'm within striking distance of the Hive Queen herself: the 3900X. Granted she comes in at 105W, but that's still --- wow --- still so, so cool given her power!
The kicker to all this is that the i7 4790 I'm currently using guzzles a whopping 85W! Yow!
Thanks to everybody who helped me out with guidance and insights; you folks are great! I'll try and remember to post one more time once I've actually made the purchase, sometime in the (hopefully, not too) distant future. :)
In the end I bought the mighty Ryzen 9 3900X! Back and forth, back and forth I danced between this and the righteous, much more efficient Ryzen 7 3700X. In the end, the angelic choir singing "Holy, holy, holy, 12 core, 24 thread, 70MB GameCache almighty, Aaaaaamen!" seduced me.
To house this heavenly tabernacle of divine power, I ordered a Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite motherboard.
So, that's it. Goodbye to my Intel i7 4950 and the old Asus mobo it's been living in, and hello to (what I hope will be) the last CPU I'll need for a long time. Thank you, again, to everyone that helped and guided me with this very big decision. Change, in any form, requires strength, so thank you, too, for sharing with me the strength of your experience.
And thank you, lastly, to Liam for this wonderful space for Linux gamers!
Last edited by Nanobang on 23 February 2020 at 4:57 pm UTC
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Enjoy!