I won't be upgrading my main gaming rig til 2023 (built in 2009). Though with the trend of games I'm playing I made just keep it Minimum or Entry level upgrade since none of the games I currently enjoy and those I plan on getting need much to run.

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Quoting: Duck Hunt-Pr0

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: Duck Hunt-Pr0Get functional hardware..

This is a rather nonsense recommendation. You can't buy a functional GPU now. Neither recent nor old. They are non existent. I.e. old ones are not produced anymore and new ones are produced in minuscule quantities which makes them impossible to buy. Check the real situation first.

Have you looked on ebay? (I admit, I haven't in a while)

And by Functional, i mean performant to the task(s) you require it to to do.

I hate to be the bringer of bad news; But mining crypto coins very much outweighs having 1200 frames per second rendered in a videogame, in sheer practicality... Just in case that's your requirement.

You can buy Functional hardware by your definition, but for a complete absurd price. Maybe for your economy those prices still makes sense, but for most of the rest of the world they don't.

BTW, having 1200 frames on games is as pointless as investing that a lot of GPU power for some shitcoins that can process less than 10k transactions per minute. Crypto's in their current state are the next big shit to fuck up the natural environment.

Quoting: Duck Hunt-Pr0And by Functional, i mean performant to the task(s) you require it to to do.

Yeah, I need an AMD GPU that can run CP2077 with enough framerate to utilize 2560x1440 144 Hz adaptive sync display efficiently. Such kind of GPUs are non existent. I don't count ebay and etc. - that's just scalpers.

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Quoting: furaxhornyx

Quoting: slaapliedjeAnyone else actually able to upgrade their PC in the last few months?

After being looking to upgrade my rather old I7-4790k with a Ryzen 5900x, I finally got impatient and ordered a 5800x instead... Can't wait to receive it :smile:

Just upgraded :wub:

Now I will wait for my friend's dedicated Valheim server to be updated to see the improvement in our base... if I can actually move, then it is an improvement :grin:

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: Duck Hunt-Pr0And by Functional, i mean performant to the task(s) you require it to to do.

Yeah, I need an AMD GPU that can run CP2077 with enough framerate to utilize 2560x1440 144 Hz adaptive sync display efficiently. Such kind of GPUs are non existent. I don't count ebay and etc. - that's just scalpers.

Even the retail stores are being forced to sell at insane prices. Look at System76's prices for building out the Thelios. Like adding a 3090 is an extra 3k or something, when the card's MSRP is supposed to be 1500~.

I've given up for now, and just play my Commodore 64. :P

Quoting: The_AquabatJust received my new 27inch monitor!!

Just checked some photos from that monitor, very sober :smile:
Makes a refreshing change from the ubiquitous gaming aesthetics :sick:

Quoting: The_AquabatJust received my new 27inch monitor!! yeah baby I'm on 1440p now 😎😎
It's 60hz, but I'm gladly impressed with the quality of it ... it has a sturdy metal stand, and very heavy, (all of it up to where it clamps the panel) so it doesn't swing around at all, rest of it is plastic but with a very nice metalic colour. Also the stand rotates in all directions.
Just tried Valheim and at very high settings it can barely do around 50fps at 1440p, so buying a 144hz was not worth it, imho (I have 5600xt gpu), besides I'm not into competitive FPS.

[I leave a link to where a bought it, in case someone from Argentina is reading this and is interested, good seller, +rep.](https://wiztech.com.ar/producto/hp-elitedisplay-e273q/?utm_source=hardgamers&utm_medium=search%20engine)

I have a couple Dell monitors I bought a few years ago that were 1440p and 144hz with G-Sync... and I liked them a lot until they started randomly displaying weird.. dust? That's about the only way I can describe it. You know how the Etch-A-Sketch worked? And you'd shake it and the powder or whatever the hell was inside the thing would cover up where you wiped it away? The effect kind of reminded me of that...

New system after 8.5 years! :tongue: :grin: I'm very happy! :wub:

Intel i7-3770 + 16GB RAM -> AMD Ryzen 7 5800X + 32GB RAM

Quoting: CsokisNew system after 8.5 years! :tongue: :grin: I'm very happy! :wub:

Intel i7-3770 + 16GB RAM -> AMD Ryzen 7 5800X + 32GB RAM

Nice! Ha, been looking at a listing on amazon for a prebuilt computer, so I can get my hands on a 3080... and it comes with a random brand..., random x570 motherboard, and a Ryzen 7 5800x... but from the reviews of them gluing cabling... kind of shying away from that! Over the years I have learned to always buy ASUS motherboards, as I always regret it when I don't!

Quoting: CsokisNew system after 8.5 years! :tongue: :grin: I'm very happy! :wub:

Intel i7-3770 + 16GB RAM -> AMD Ryzen 7 5800X + 32GB RAM

Very nice! Sounds be good to like 2030 now right? Lol!

Ugh, bit the bullet and bought a pre-built system. Not sure how I feel about the AIOs, and the RGB garbage, but it has a 3080 and 5900x in it...

Quoting: The_Aquabatcongrats Csokis!!!

I'm planning maybe in a few months to buy a new mobo just to be ready when silicon shortage is over, and prices go down to buy a Ryzen 5600, is there any specific reason to choose a B550 over a B450? I mean this is the endline for Ryzen on AM4, is there other advantage other than better VRMs? the top of the line of the B450 have very decent VRMs, quite frankly I don't see any advantage.
yeah ok, sure, the price difference is just a dozen of dollars maybe, but I see no point.

All I have heard so far indicates the situation is not improving this year except if the crypto bullshit would crash. So if this is the only reason to wait, I would strongly recommend to just wait until you can buy all parts at once. DDR5 and new sockets is about to come next year.

If you cannot wait I would suggest to try to get an APU. I guess you do not have a powerfull spare PCIE gfx card. The Ryzen 5700G would be the thing you wanna have here. And just buy the gfx card later. I would take the B550 because of more recent BIOS and therefore probably better Ryzen 5xxx compatibility. Also it has PCIE gen4.

I finally broke down and bought a 3080 with accessories (accessories being a Ryzen 9 5800x, 32gb of ddr4 ram, an annoying RGB case, and keyboard / mouse, and mitherboard, etc...)
Still only a slight markup from buying just the video card...

Quoting: The_Aquabatmonitor shortage as well, at least it's very noticeable here, not sure how it looks in other countries.

I know there is a general "chip" shortage here, affecting some non tech things (like car factories in my area). I imagine that doesn't help us either. I fear the universe is against us mortals upgrading our PCs.

Congrats slaapliedje! Sounds like nice accessories!

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Quoting: denyasis

Quoting: The_Aquabatmonitor shortage as well, at least it's very noticeable here, not sure how it looks in other countries.

I know there is a general "chip" shortage here, affecting some non tech things (like car factories in my area). I imagine that doesn't help us either. I fear the universe is against us mortals upgrading our PCs.

Congrats slaapliedje! Sounds like nice accessories!

Thanks! I still want to know some things...

1) Why do cases insist on removing 5.25" bays so we can no longer mount optical drives... yet motherboard manufacturers still include a PS/2 port...

2) RGB... why?? My computer sits under my desk on my left side... even if my case had a see through window (the one that it came with did, along with RGB fans all up the front) I couldn't say 'ooh the colors!' because it's facing away from me anyhow...

3) Let's all use AIO and water cooling, even though it's been shown that if you get a good enough cooler (like the awesome Noctua one I had in my old set up) it's both quieter (the fans barely ever even kicked on) and looks cooler (sure no colors, but nothing speaks awesome like a giant chunk of metal in your case! Also makes you not want to keep messing around inside, as the potential for cuts and scrapes is higher! It protects from tinkerers...

4) how much bigger does my RAM need to be, just so it has RGB lighting that I'll never see??

Ha, funny thing is, for the longest time I thought the only real benefit to going water cooled was the silence, but this AIO block has a wobbly fan or something, so I'm either going to replace the fans (already ordered some) or will end up buying another HSF from Noctua to replace it as it irritates me and I DGIAF about RGB.

Quoting: slaapliedjeThanks! I still want to know some things...

1) Pure hate.
2) Agreed. I hear they attract teens like crows to foil though! (Lol, sorry teens)
3) my notuca might wanna fight on that one. It gets hot....I can feel it on the outside of the case!

I think it's an airflow issue, but in an ITX case, I can only add so many fans cause that HSF is huge!!

Quoting: denyasis

Quoting: slaapliedjeThanks! I still want to know some things...

1) Pure hate.
2) Agreed. I hear they attract teens like crows to foil though! (Lol, sorry teens)
3) my notuca might wanna fight on that one. It gets hot....I can feel it on the outside of the case!

I think it's an airflow issue, but in an ITX case, I can only add so many fans cause that HSF is huge!!

Ha, ITX sure seems to be the key letters there.
I tend to have front fans, back fans and the HSF fans. Good for pulling air through your case. And hopefully you face them all the same way so you don't screw up the flow.

Quoting: slaapliedje1) Why do cases insist on removing 5.25" bays so we can no longer mount optical drives... yet motherboard manufacturers still include a PS/2 port...

When I upgraded, I wanted to change my case too, but I faced the same problem with no 5.25" bay accessible from the front... So I'm keeping my old, very heavy case for now.

However, when choosing my new motherboard, I didn't thought about the PS/2 port, thinking "well, all manufacturers will include one anyway"... Unfortunately, it didn't, so I had to bought an adapter for my full-NKRO mechanical keyboard, turning it into a 6KRO only... so yeah, there is still a point to having a PS/2 port :wink:

Quoting: furaxhornyx

Quoting: slaapliedje1) Why do cases insist on removing 5.25" bays so we can no longer mount optical drives... yet motherboard manufacturers still include a PS/2 port...

When I upgraded, I wanted to change my case too, but I faced the same problem with no 5.25" bay accessible from the front... So I'm keeping my old, very heavy case for now.

However, when choosing my new motherboard, I didn't thought about the PS/2 port, thinking "well, all manufacturers will include one anyway"... Unfortunately, it didn't, so I had to bought an adapter for my full-NKRO mechanical keyboard, turning it into a 6KRO only... so yeah, there is still a point to having a PS/2 port :wink:

I can highly recommend the Fractal Design cases. I have an R6 and love it. Have the proper bluray drive in it so it can read PS3 discs.

Huh, most of the mechanical keyboards I have seen are USB. May look into getting a PS/2 one for my old p3 or Atari PC4 to play with... (no, damnit, I already have way too many keyboards!)

Quoting: slaapliedjeI can highly recommend the Fractal Design cases. I have an R6 and love it. Have the proper bluray drive in it so it can read PS3 discs.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will have a look at these :smile:

Quoting: slaapliedjeHuh, most of the mechanical keyboards I have seen are USB. May look into getting a PS/2 one for my old p3 or Atari PC4 to play with... (no, damnit, I already have way too many keyboards!)

Mine is a QPAD MK-50 (black cherry MX), with no RGB, and full NKEY rollover (but only on PS/2 port though). I also customized the switches on some key, like clicky blue switches for F1-F12 and numbers below, and lighter red switches for modifiers, so that my fingers don't hurt when crouching / sprinting for a long time :wink: