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Such good news! I did notice my performance in Deus Ex:MD dropping from 30-60 fps to 5-15 fps after a driver update about a month ago, but I was too lazy to downgrade or to report the bug.

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The testers should really be comparing performance metrics with many of the AAA and popular titles across at least several previous generations of drivers. So I really don't know what sort of testing their doing, do they play games and run benchmarks even?

Meanwhile AMD still struggles getting good fps in many of these games, Deus Ex being one of the big offenders, makes the VEGA cards look REAL bad!

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: oldgarolmaooo...good time to move away from NVIDIA!

Well, no. Let's not pretend Mesa is perfect. All software has bugs and regressions.

Agreed.

Until Amd Mesa supports compat profiles , Nvidia will be the winner.

Not everybody has to deal with various workarounds to run some games.

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Quoting: EhvisThey're not saying they'll fix it in next release. They stated it would contain a workaround because they have not yet identified the cause.

I'm reading this as they will undo the change that showed the problematic behaviour and will fix the bug and redo the change then later.

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Quoting: lucifertdarkI would much prefer to have them say "we found a bug & fixed it" rather than "we found a bug & we'll fix it some time in the next month or so", fix it then tell us it about it.

They're not saying they'll fix it in next release. They stated it would contain a workaround because they have not yet identified the cause.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: oldgarolmaooo...good time to move away from NVIDIA!

Well, no. Let's not pretend Mesa is perfect. All software has bugs and regressions.

The only time I have experienced regressions is when using mesa git, now the kernel driver is a different story. There are still a few games that have issues (Warden: Melody of the Undergrowth) and some with performance problems (War Thunder performs poorly in certain situations). I recall kernel 4.10 and recently 4.14 has given some performance regressions. All is fine thus far on kernel 4.15RC1 from my testing so far.

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Quoting: linuxvangogthey offer a less-than-perfect user experience, since user needs to install loads of 32 bit dependencies and there's no going around that

I just tell people to install their system's Wine package & let the package manager take care of the rest.

Quoting: linuxvangogthey meet, sadly, with poor reception, aka "meh, I could easily just run it with Wine myself"

It's a very similar situation to DOSBox really. More experienced users can just set up Wine themselves but that's not an option for newer & less advanced users, for whom Wine can be very daunting & a major hassle to use. Even for more experienced users, some games can still be a huge pain to get running in Wine when you don't know exactly what's needed to get them working.

Plus wrappers can offer more than simply getting the games running; things like save handling, performing some initial display setup etc. to try to make the experience more like playing native games, as I try to do with my wrappers.

On that note, you're welcome to use any of my wrappers to do official releases if you want :) Although some of them may not be possible due to requiring certain native components where licensing may be a blocker (especially where such components are made by Microsoft).

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I play this game for, like, 5-6 hours and more or less like it. There is definitely weak point in this game - certain lack of variety in action, little unfair enemies (with better aim and coming in packs), very small variation in weaponry - as i mentioned i liked 3089 (3079 too) and one point i liked it is ability to assemble your gun from spare parts - with enough effort it was possible to make ultrasniper rifle with explosive bullets or something like that, but not in Tolva.
That i like is certain mystery and exploration parts. I like these tranquil silent fields. I like these ancient derelicts.
Its not best game ever and its doesnt ring "WOW", but i feel like finishing it.

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Quoting: oldgarolmaooo...good time to move away from NVIDIA!

Well, no. Let's not pretend Mesa is perfect. All software has bugs and regressions.

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lmaooo...good time to move away from NVIDIA!

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: lucifertdarkI would much prefer to have them say "we found a bug & fixed it" rather than "we found a bug & we'll fix it some time in the next month or so", fix it then tell us it about it.

How exactly would it be better if they kept us in the dark? On the contrary, I'd much prefer it if they had a public bug tracker.

Not only that, but I don't think people realize just how much work is involved in putting out a new release. You can't just click compile it and send it out, it has to go through tons of testing. We're talking a GPU driver here for tons years of generations of chips.

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Quoting: MarkyI would instantly jump on an official wine wrapped port of DooM 2016, for example.

Off-topic, but: On my computer, DOOM 2016 (Vulkan) runs better on wine, compared to native wind0ze; the latter has some annoying visual artifacts, stuttering at places, etc. -- under wine-staging there's none of that. I have no idea how or why, but it's pretty amusing. The win partition is clean (just a few games) and well-maintained, so it can't be a borked installation.

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Where's Killer Waldo?

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For older games I honestly wouldn't mind if games were wine-wrapped. Old games practically have to be wrapped one way or another anyway, and the key thing is official support; messing around with wine or discovering bugs mid-game is not fun.
For newer or demanding games, I do have a preference towards "native" games, but it's a mild preference; I would instantly jump on an official wine wrapped port of DooM 2016, for example.

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YES!!! I love Jazz Jackrabbit! Used to play it all the time when i was a kid and thought i'd never get to play it again! Memomry Lane, here i come!

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TV series? Game? Black Mirror is obviously a song by the sometimes famous and often good band, Arcade Fire.

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Quoting: j_c_pThe SHEEP : you've got a discount of 10% ... and have a look at the "changelog".
I bought the game as it's a great game, but now, I need time to play!
(I've got COE4 too)

This is what bugs me, it reads like a changelog to dom4. Making me think they charge 30.- for an update.
Some things in the changelog sound like they were looking for things to write

QuoteDominion overlay on map to clearly show its boundaries

and then below

QuoteUpdated user interface with information more clearly presented than before

but then again they close with:

QuoteThere are many more changes since Dominions 4 that haven't been mentioned here, more information will come later.

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Bought the bundle as well, eager to see tonight how it will fly on my steam box :D

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Quoting: lucifertdarkI would much prefer to have them say "we found a bug & fixed it" rather than "we found a bug & we'll fix it some time in the next month or so", fix it then tell us it about it.

How exactly would it be better if they kept us in the dark? On the contrary, I'd much prefer it if they had a public bug tracker.

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Quoting: linuxvangog

Quoting: LiamThey also added Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Collection today, but it doesn't have a Linux download

I am pretty sure the game runs flawlessly on Linux with Wine. So go for it, if you're a fan!

Here's why we didn't offer a Wine wrapper ourselves:

• such wrappers take a huge chunk of our QA & fixing time since we need to be sure they are playable & don't introduce bugs at any point in-game


• they offer a less-than-perfect user experience, since user needs to install loads of 32 bit dependencies and there's no going around that


• they meet, sadly, with poor reception, aka "meh, I could easily just run it with Wine myself"

This could be of course re-evaluated, if there was a huge demand for Wine-wrapped titles.

I think this attitude will change over time, especially for older titles as Wine matures. Personally, I would be happy with a wine-port if it was sufficiently old enough and worked so I can't tell the difference.

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Quoting: g000hAnd it's out... with a 10% discount: Steam purchase page

But... spent over £60 on Black Friday game sales, ack.... giving in, giving in...


EDIT:

And now it is bought and in my Steam game collection. Note - For a better discount, can get the bundle.

Yes, got an additional 10% discount via the bundle. Nice of the dev for owners of their previous game ^_^

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Quoting: lucifertdarkI would much prefer to have them say "we found a bug & fixed it" rather than "we found a bug & we'll fix it some time in the next month or so", fix it then tell us it about it.

I'm sure that Nvidia doing this makes it easier on Feral since they are receiving support tickets for their games. It also makes me feel less crazy about my performance issues. When some support can't reproduce them.

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The patch is now in mesa master.
This means that the next oibaf ppa mesa release should pick it up for ubuntu users.

I hope it also lands in 17.3.0 which is to be released this weekend.

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I would much prefer to have them say "we found a bug & fixed it" rather than "we found a bug & we'll fix it some time in the next month or so", fix it then tell us it about it.

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Quoting: LiamThey also added Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Collection today, but it doesn't have a Linux download

I am pretty sure the game runs flawlessly on Linux with Wine. So go for it, if you're a fan!

Here's why we didn't offer a Wine wrapper ourselves:

• such wrappers take a huge chunk of our QA & fixing time since we need to be sure they are playable & don't introduce bugs at any point in-game


• they offer a less-than-perfect user experience, since user needs to install loads of 32 bit dependencies and there's no going around that


• they meet, sadly, with poor reception, aka "meh, I could easily just run it with Wine myself"

This could be of course re-evaluated, if there was a huge demand for Wine-wrapped titles.

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should we benchmar stuff again?

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Quoting: inlinuxdude

Quoting: cprnI want this on Linux. Waiting with popcron.

Aren't you afraid it isn't realistic enough of motorcycle riding??? /s :D

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/road-redemption-the-spiritual-successor-to-road-rash-is-now-officially-released.10482/comment_id=104925

Oh, it's better than Road Redemption, I'm sure! :D

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Epic Pinball is still my personal "best pinball game ever" (installed it from real cd in my dosbox setup), Jazz Jackrabbit is another fond memory (sonic rabbits with guns, nice soundtrack, ...)

So both oldies but goodies, nice to have them easily available in GOG

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Played the original 3 games and they were... well, not the greatest point and click games but the story was great. Does anyone know if this includes the stories from all Black Mirror original games 1-3 or is this just the first episode re-imagined?

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This is great news! I've still got my Jazz Jackrabbit 2 CD somewhere... :-)

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