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Quoting: boltronicsThese launch issues only existed on unsupported distros that have issues with the Steam runtime which then can impact games in different ways. We constantly tweak our scripts and options to make the game run more reliably and workaround these issues on unsupported systems to help users who don't use the officially supported distros however we can't reasonably test and fully support all distros especially rolling release distros (which are constantly changing).

That's fair. However checking the libraries would seem to be something fairly easy to automate for a bunch of different distributions, via chroots/schroot/pbuilder or some such.

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Quoting: boltronicsWhat I'm really interested in is seeing them finally get to the bottom of why the game wants to download an update every single time I launch Steam. It's really annoying!

We've been looking into it and Valve are investigating the issue but we don't have a solution yet. It seems related to ownership of multiple DoW2 games but we haven't pinpointed the exact cause yet.

Ah. That could well be the case. I purchased the Australian retail box of DoW 2 waaaay back when it had Games for Windows Live. The Retribution add-on was purchased much later as a digital purchase.

Oddly, the GNU/Linux version didn't appear for Retribution immediately, but the ancient GFW base game showed the GNU/Linux version immediately.

Quoting: edddeduckferal

Quoting: boltronicsAlso, it seems one of my recent Mesa updates (which I compile myself) broke the game, so I'll need to look into that before I can play it again - and possibly do a regression test.

If you play on the bleeding edge of git you have to expect to get cut every once in a while. :) I'm sure it will get fixed quickly many of the most active Mesa developers have DoW2 keys so they should be able to easily repro issues :)

It's a weird one, and I'm surprised nobody else has seen it since I've been experiencing it for a few weeks now. In fact, just last night I checked out the 13.0.2 git tag, and I still experienced corrupted graphics - built using llvm 3.9, with amdgpu as included in a clean Linux 4.9-rc7 build. This is on a Fury X (Fiji) card. Every time I click past the Feral launcher, all the graphics become garbled - something I don't think I've seen on any of my other games to date. It doesn't seem to be an issue when running the game under Wine, so I'm going to see if I can find time to do a regression test this weekend.

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I want the return of the old fashion CPUs: A pure CPU only. I don't want to pay for an integrated GPU garbage that I will not use.

I really miss the old AMD days of CPUs with hidden cores.

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Totaly unplayable, stutter like hell, before the new update was perfect...

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Quoting: CJORWe need the AMD comeback! "Inteldia" is getting very expensive.
Meanwhile in Phoronix: The Rumor Is Back That Future Intel CPUs To Use Radeon Graphics

This notice stay better explained on techpowerup

Article by courtesy techpowerup

https://www.techpowerup.com/228467/intel-could-license-amd-radeon-igpu-tech-for-future-processors

This is some parts of techpowerup article

QuoteIntel and AMD's cross-licensing arrangements could get more equitable in the future, with reports hinting at the possibility of Intel licensing AMD Radeon intellectual property to be used as Intel processors' integrated GPUs.

Rumors of such a deal were first reported by HardOCP this Spring, where it stated that the two companies were negotiating a licensing agreement.

Earlier this week, HardOCP editor Kyle Bennett commented on the site's forums that a licensing agreement has been reached between the two, even though Intel does not want this to be public.

Such an agreement could see AMD sharing designs of its Radeon integrated graphics processors with Intel, which will integrate it into its processor designs, and manufacture them.

Whether the amalgamated graphics solution will continue to be branded "AMD Radeon" or whether it will be marketed under the Intel graphics brands, remains to be seen.

Apparently stay related with intel could use some amd gpu techs (in past them make same thing)

For this reasons intel skylake gpu for example support all DX12 capabilities (thanks them can use some nvidia technologies (previous agreement) and some amd technologies too)

Maybe this new agreement could be announce big changes in vega, some time ago appear information about vega related different design (in vega apparently some units stay deleted for gain better ratio watt/performance) compared to polaris

Only needs wait, however this technologies maybe could visible when intel launch cannonlake with respective gpu (Gen10 ?)

^_^

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Mattel toys must be kicking themselves at the lost opportunity.

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There is a guy from Youtube [0] that compiled the 4.7 kernel + DAL for Arch [1]. I did not try it yet but he said audio over HDMI is working. Since I don't have FreeSync displays I can't check if that is working.

Please keep in mind it's a pre-compiled kernel - use it at your own risk. I don't garantuee it's virus free since I don't know that guy.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry_klS9vwj4
[1] https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-S6einraYmXVERvTENsX3ljZDQ?pageId=105427087875279588053

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I wonder how many hours of training goes into playing as shown in the update trailer. I played for 18h and still play like a total noob.

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QuoteThey will be letting "eSports & Evil Geniuses legend PPD" put it through its paces, I'm not going to pretend I know who that is, should I know?

Retired DotA 2 Player. Captain of the Evil Geniuses squad that won The International 5.

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Some performance issues on Linux have been reported.

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Quoting: CJORWe need the AMD comeback! "Inteldia" is getting very expensive.
Meanwhile in Phoronix: The Rumor Is Back That Future Intel CPUs To Use Radeon Graphics

Hmmm, apparently so! Interesting times...

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1.6 gb update, let's see if the Linux version is more stable.

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I like the idea of a separate system for reporting spelling and grammar mistakes; I wish more websites had that!
I'll be sure to let you know if I spot anything. :)

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We need the AMD comeback! "Inteldia" is getting very expensive.
Meanwhile in Phoronix: The Rumor Is Back That Future Intel CPUs To Use Radeon Graphics

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Quoting: hurt138I have been a gamer on every platform since the Atari 2600 back in the 80s. I can say that games these days are much more cross platform than any back in the days of old. True it does suck when that game you really want to play is not on your OS or console of choice, but its up to the developer and always has.

The cost of console games costing more was mostly due to the cartridge days. No way to make that cheaper (back then). The issue I see with the cost of console and PC or even physical and digital these days, is the dev cost of AAA games. When companies put armies of staff and huge budgets on marketing that game, the actual media ends up being such a small fraction of the total cost.

Perhaps too, those were the only days when hardware compatibility was a actually real issue...

These days the only real reason to exclude any gaming community is 'the boardroom'. I am not upset by that, my point is that the more the gaming communities fracture from boardroom politics the increasingly important and relevant open-source platforms become. We need to be the shining light and an example to the world that the open-source community cares more about people, safety, freedom and choice than it does about money.

Trolling game developers, especially when things go wrong (and as I pointed out in previous posts - even AAA titles go wrong more often then you think) really does not help anyone.

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Quoting: chepatiI bought the GOG version. Audio doesn't work for me.

Could be a known bug related to missing pulseaudio and some lingering pulse packages installed. A number of Unity games are affected by it if they are using fmod.

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The thing I liked most about TIS-100 is being able to "compete" against friends to get the best instruction count/times. Really makes you think.

Both games are a niche market to be honest. You won't learn programming, but you may learn enough to understand assembly language a little more. Having an understanding of digital logic gives you a head start in Shenzen I/O, and that game is highly entertaining.

Seriously, be prepared to think, and think hard. You won't be solving these games puzzles in 5 minutes then moving on to the next.

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Quoting: PompesdeskyDid Feral note how often the word "Dirt3" comes up in the comments on this site ? Certainly is a sign that this community likes it a lot ^^

Yes, we note many things in these forums and other similar places :)

I bet you noticed how often "Doom" comes up too :)

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Finally a reason for me to buy this game!

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Can we kill that fucking penguin already? We desperately need a better, more professional logo of some sort - not a decades old mascot that looks exactly like it is decades old.

Logo! Not Mascot! (for the professional environments) Leave the mascot to plushies and fans.

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Well played!

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QuoteIt has come to my attention recently that some people have been taking a really hard stance against developers who want to gauge interest for a Linux port.

Can you link some examples? I'm not actively reading the Steam forums, so maybe I'm out of the loop?

The discussion in the comments here also seems to go all over the place, touching various issues.

It was a couple articles here on GOL about developers asking for this kind of show of hands. The titles should make them obvious to find if you look at the past few days.

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Developpers don't want us to beg, they want to create a hype around their game before they consider releasing on Linux, they don't want to release on Linux and go unnoticed. If we get so much games these days it's also because of Liam and GamingOnLinux and also because of the Reddit community, without this developpers would probably would have no way to reach to the Linux gamers and make them know they released the game on Linux.

But developpers don't know us, they don't know how the game will be received by the Linux community, I've heard many times developpers saying that they are afraid to release their working Linux version because if a user on Gentoo / Slackware or whatever cannot run the game he might give a negative review and ruin the game reputation.

That's why it's very important that we stay nice to developpers even when they don't always deserve it, because the reputation of the Linux community is vital for all of us. Sometimes things need to be said, like the fact that X is still not released on Linux months after the announced release date or that Y is still broken months after release, be being unrespectful to the developpers is not going to help in any way.

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Part of me is happy that Zenimax ruffled their feathers as this should bring the game into a brighter light now that it's open source, this might help the game reach 1.0 and develop even further.

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They need to have something fast, because Microsoft will almost definitly try to acquire this market and put their own proprietary solutions in place.

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Not being familiar with the game, it took me a while to realize that it wasn't the Linux version's DLC, but the full game that was being delayed :)

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Quoting: poiuzYou don't get an installer. If it's DRM free you can just copy or archive the game data from your steamapps folder. A DRM free game will run without Steam running (or installed).

I don't think we ought to consider this DRM-free, it is just really easy to rip it yourself. While the game does not have its own DRM, the overall product still does.

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Quoting: Mountain ManNah... you just pick your platform and then play the games that are available for it. There's no reason to feel like you're "missing out" just because every single game is not available on your platform of choice.

But Metroid Prime looks sooo good...

I'm actually considering looking around for a Wii/WiiU just so I can play Metroid Prime and a couple nice Zelda games.

There's just some games that are so good at what they do there's just no replacement.

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Quoting: iskaputt

QuoteIt has come to my attention recently that some people have been taking a really hard stance against developers who want to gauge interest for a Linux port.

Can you link some examples? I'm not actively reading the Steam forums, so maybe I'm out of the loop?

The discussion in the comments here also seems to go all over the place, touching various issues.

I don't want to start a witch hunt, so no, sorry.

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QuoteIt has come to my attention recently that some people have been taking a really hard stance against developers who want to gauge interest for a Linux port.

Can you link some examples? I'm not actively reading the Steam forums, so maybe I'm out of the loop?

The discussion in the comments here also seems to go all over the place, touching various issues.

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