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The whole "walking simulator" genre was a joke. And somehow people stuck with it. :D

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works like a charm ^^. I cant tell if Im just "getting better" or if there drivers are less buggy.
But I'v always installed nvidia drivers via ppa. I find it less buggy and its simpler that way.
But I wanted to try it with a run file, in tty, by myself this time. And it works :O.

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Quoting: KimyrielleTbh, in my experience installing Linux on a -new- PC was never as easy as it should be. There is always, -always- at least one component in a brand new PC that's not supported by the newest available distro of your choice (that or it's just my bad luck, but in 17 years of using Linux I never had one single smooth install). So the fumbling and tweaking starts. And yes, it's annoying. It usually works flawlessly with the next distro release, but new PCs need an OS too.

I got a new laptop last summer (IIRC in June) and at least back then the NVidia drivers couldn't handle Optimus. Not sure if anything changed in the meantime. Laptops are an even bigger pain to install Linux on btw. The latest one I got (an Acer) had a firmware obviously written by a complete hack of a noob programmer, that would boot the Windows bootloader as soon as it detected it in UEFI completely ignoring what's configured in GRUB. Took me ages to figure that out.

Heh, he doesn't believe that he will regret directly writing to X, but he absolutely will. :D

And why would one want to use a commercial code editor when we have tons of awesome open source ones? oO

Must be bad luck then. My desktops never gave me any problems (even my brand new i7 Skylake rig) and my laptops (Lenovo E130 and L430, HP 6715, Acer Aspire One) always behaved nicely (with AMD graphics I had to rely on the open source drivers though and at least two of them came without an OS at all).

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Quoting: VoltageHello, what are the difference between the drivers from the web page you linked us and this one :

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en

That is the stable driver, this is more bleeding edge.

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It runs OK for me (the cat has potential).

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Hello, what are the difference between the drivers from the web page you linked us and this one :

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en

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This post keeps tricking me. I keep seeing this and my brain thinks, yay day one support. Then I realize it is; one day. My bad.

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How is the performance on Shadow of Mordor? the last driver I tried gave me floating heads.

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It's odd . . . I am not a programmer. Like, at all--I took one, one-hundred-level programming course in university and a couple in high school; Pascal and Basic. And yet somehow, my hanging around paying attention to Linux issues for a fair number of years made even me think "Oh dear, I think that wasn't the way to go" a few times while reading that writeup.

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Quoting: stesenbuilding for Linux or OSX will be no different than building for Windows. Just open the project in the editor and pick a different option under Build.

No, just no. Stop right there.
Do not imagine it is as easy as to just develop for Windows and then push the button that says "Linux" and ship it. This attitude above is the exact reason why we got far too many Unity-based games with issues on Linux. This is why we've had to do idiotic things like rename installed files due to case sensitive file system. This is why we've had to live with insane mouse tracking, horrible screen tearing, faulty focus handling and utterly annoying multi-monitor issues.

It's not - NOT - that easy. There are fundamental differences between the platforms that must be handled and tested throughout the entire development cycle, and the only good way of releasing something on multiple platforms is to plan this from stage one.

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I'm getting the general impression that Vulkan must genuinely be fairly clean and simple, thus easy to make the drivers, since overall it seems like development of this stuff is happening faster than I was really expecting.

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Certainly sounds like the game's a pile of Bullshot.

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it has been working flawlessly for me once again, incredibly addicting gameplay. the game's main resource file labeled as core.cpk and .mpk (mod files) are accessible like any .zip archive file. if you find some mods that appear to be html in Linux, relabel them to .zip in order to extract the contents. I'm not sure why this happens.
the base design uses javascript and xml for making mods.

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Hmmm... as interested as I am in this game, I think I'll keep my distance for a while because it sounds like the Linux version is going to have some serious issues when it's eventually released.

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Walking simulator mystery type game. That's one of my favourite genres. Doesn't offer much replayability, but first time through is a magic ride.

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I definitely recommend picking it up. It's a wonderful game, with a very interesting story. It's very much a case of the candle twice as bright burns half as long though, so don't expect a 100 hour epic.

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dilettantish

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Quoting: DaVinceIn the graphics-drivers PPA I'm seeing that the version is 364.15, updated 3 hours ago (at the time of writing this comment), not 364.16. Can I expect it to be the same driver anyway?

I doubt it. The graphics-drivers PPA is usually a day or two behind, it will probably be up on Monday. 346.16 is so new it's not even listed on Nvidia's own downloads page yet, 346.15 is still the most current on that page.

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As someone who has done raw X11, and knows the limitations and corner-cases...brrr. There's so many ways this can break if you ignore the details and extensions.

This "but it's so much smaller" is a classic excuse for the Not-Invented-Here syndrome. I myself know it well, too.

Just use SDL. Period.

Binding himself to SlickEdit instead of a tried and true proper build system is also not a good thing future-proof-wise, I'm afraid.

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In the graphics-drivers PPA I'm seeing that the version is 364.15, updated 3 hours ago (at the time of writing this comment), not 364.16. Can I expect it to be the same driver anyway?

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Quoting: neowiz73He really should reach out to some of well known porters of Linux Games. I just don't want to see him get frustrated to the point he feels it wasn't worth the effort. I'm sure Ethan Lee or Ryan Gordon could help in this situation.

I'm not saying that a lot of these devs even need to take it that far. Like at least someone to give them a hand just to partition a drive or something would be a step forward haha.

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Quoting: Cheeseness

Quoting: Mountain ManI haven't played Hand of Fate 1!

There are a couple of copies up for grabs over here if you're keen.

Ah, darn, I missed it. :(

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He really should reach out to some of well known porters of Linux Games. I just don't want to see him get frustrated to the point he feels it wasn't worth the effort. I'm sure Ethan Lee or Ryan Gordon could help in this situation.

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This is fast as hell. I can only dream AMD supporting like this on Linux.

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Quoting: TheBoss

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Quoting: TheBossYou may think it's overreacting, but I will keep pointing out developers that do stuff like this.

Do stuff like what?? Tone it down a little, maybe.

Tone it down? Cheeky.

I think you're fully aware of what I am talking about: Developers who state Linux is a platform right up until release, then release without Linux support and don't mention it anywhere. Forcing me and other users to chase them up for answers.

I will continue to point out developers that do it, as the majority appreciate it. We also have people who like to know what happens with games that we previously covered.

When did we suddenly start expecting day 1 releases by default?

We're 2% of the market, and like it or not, whether intentional or not, GOL represents the face of that 2%. And if you go about this thing with all the grace and tact of a British tabloid, it does a huge disservice to us all.

So yeah, tone it down.

The "majority" you speak of is debatable too - did you take a survey?

If GOL is the "face" of the 2%, then I will continue to point out developers who do shady things. And I will continue to be happy doing so. I get annoyed by it as a potential customer, and as someone who reports on things based on the word of these developers.

I feel like I'm repeating myself here. The Steam store and everywhere mentions Linux right up until the release. It releases and the Linux mentions are removed, and no communication until quizzed on it.

If you feel like me chasing down developers who bait and switch isn't worth your time, I really don't care.

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I always wonder with these things why the devs never get someone who knows a lot about Linux or uses it regularly to give them a hand? Like most programmers would know at least one, and Linux people usually love to show newcomers stuff. Anyway, would save them a lot of headaches I think and would prevent some of the ragequits we've had in the past

He should go ahead and release it now... Been waiting to play this for so damn long.

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Nvidia++;

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On my old PC I had to use boot-repair every single time I installed any Linux distribution, grub would never install and boot correctly.

With this new system I had to reset the motherboard to get Ubuntu to boot and work properly, as the manufacturer put Windows on to test it, even though I selected the No OS option. That took me an entire day to figure out, had to phone them in the end. Apparently something to do with UEFI, I don't quite understand it, but he was right. I held down a button on the motherboard to reset it, then Ubuntu was fine.

There are lots of niggling issues.

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I wonder if his approach will make it difficult (or impossible) to use a Steam controller. Will Steam itself even handle it correctly?

Also, regarding his troubles installing Linux, I've occasionally had similar trouble installing Windows on machines. I was only able to save them by using CD-ROMs (yes, remember those?) with third-party drivers on them. No OS has 100% out-of-the-box compatibility with all current and future hardware.

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Tbh, in my experience installing Linux on a -new- PC was never as easy as it should be. There is always, -always- at least one component in a brand new PC that's not supported by the newest available distro of your choice (that or it's just my bad luck, but in 17 years of using Linux I never had one single smooth install). So the fumbling and tweaking starts. And yes, it's annoying. It usually works flawlessly with the next distro release, but new PCs need an OS too.

I got a new laptop last summer (IIRC in June) and at least back then the NVidia drivers couldn't handle Optimus. Not sure if anything changed in the meantime. Laptops are an even bigger pain to install Linux on btw. The latest one I got (an Acer) had a firmware obviously written by a complete hack of a noob programmer, that would boot the Windows bootloader as soon as it detected it in UEFI completely ignoring what's configured in GRUB. Took me ages to figure that out.

Heh, he doesn't believe that he will regret directly writing to X, but he absolutely will. :D

And why would one want to use a commercial code editor when we have tons of awesome open source ones? oO

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