That's pretty much how I would have put it too. Native is best, but I would love it if developers without the resources to make a native build would just focus on Proton/WINE compatibility.

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Quoting: CatKillerIf Linus has updated his package list, he wouldn't have had the problem.

With all due respect, please stop saying this, Linux Community. The problem was a broken package, which would have happened, no matter what Linus did. He should have read the warning, it is true, but none of this was his fault. The fault was 100% on that broken package.

Quoting: CatKillerBut he got his "engaging" content, and he got his excuse to run something Arch-based, so he didn't bother.

While I am equally disappointed he gave up on the Ubuntu-based distros, This isn't helpful. A normal user is not going to run a command in the terminal to fix something that should not have broken, and they're not going to want to run to the interwebs to get help with a broken install.

If Linus was the everyday user that he's trying to emulate, the normal user would have gone back to Windows at this point... and I can't say I blame them. Pop screwed up with that broken package that borked the system, and I hope they review their package review process to ensure it doesn't happen again.

In short... none of that was his fault, other than ignoring a warning message... which the average user would have also done.

Someone I was watching on YouTube said that the message should have been highlighted to stand out more. I agree.

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I think I actually cried when Linus skipped the warning on the apt screen. It's not his fault. I place all of the blame on the broken package. But it was literally a case of "That should not have happened." (In Captain Picard's voice. Thumbs up to anyone that gets the quote)

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It's amazing how far we've come since Gabe turned his attention to Linux. And while we're still not perfect, it is awesome having a viable alternative to Windows that mostly just works

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Quoting: WorMzyInteresting to see how a digital platform can be anti-digital currency. I wonder which government has been leaning on them, considering China's recent actions regarding bitcoin et al..

If I were to go down that rabbit hole, my guess would be the USA, but it could be any country as most of them don't like untraceable currency.

But I'm not going down that rabbit hole... my theory is that crypto has been too much of a problem for Steam users and Valve was forced to step in.

I think it's most likely the bad actors causing a "this is why we can't have nice things" effect.

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To me, cryptocurrencies sound like nothing more than a scam.

But more importantly, remember that behind every rule is a story. I have to wonder what has been going on behind the scenes.

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Quoting: CyrilWas it the same with the GOG version?

According to the comments on the GoG page, Games for Windows Live was removed from that version a long time ago (2017). I'm pretty sure GfWL goes against the spirit of GoG's DRM free policies.

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Quoting: BielFPs

Quoting: AussieEeveeFinancially, no. But Gaben seems to have made it his mission to make gaming on Linux a reality, so I would still expect Valve to try.

Personally I think "his mission" as you said is the same as it has always been: Keeping Steam on the throne of the game stores.

Linux it's more of a guarantee that they can be independent of their potential competitor (aka Microsoft) if they need to, and while I wish your opinion to be the truth I really think that this vision of "Valve's being the savior of Linux on desktop" that the community seems to have a bit too much.

Which of course doesn't change the fact that their efforts are benefiting the Linux gaming for sure, so it's something of win-win situation.

It's more than just an opinion.

Here's a quote from the big man himself:

Quoting: Gabe NewellThe big problem that is holding back Linux is games. People don't realize how critical games are in driving consumer purchasing behavior. We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2,500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well.

Quoting: Gabe NewellIt feels a little bit funny coming here and telling you guys that Linux and open source are the future of gaming. It's sort of like going to Rome and teaching Catholicism to the pope.

Gabe really believes that "Linux and Open Source are the future of gaming". This last one is a quote from him at [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCGMiT0CQAI&t=16s]Linuxcon 2013[/url].

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Quoting: BielFPs

Quoting: Purple Library GuyI would be really surprised if Valve were unable to persuade those people to enable their anticheat to work with Proton.

The fact that they don't need to is the key point, remember that most of the profit from steam comes from Windows users so Valve isn't losing anything from developers not supporting Proton.

Financially, no. But Gaben seems to have made it his mission to make gaming on Linux a reality, so I would still expect Valve to try.

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GTA V is such a pain to run under Proton. If your computer, like mine, is underpowered and not running a high enough graphics card, it doesn't seem to work right.

In Windows, I get about 45-60FPS, depending on what's going on... with most settings turned to low.

In Linux, I get 5FPS, same settings.

GTA is the only game I've played where the Linux performance is worse than the Windows performance, so I chalk it up to either my card being rubbish (It is. GTX 960 2GB) or the game itself.

Of course, none of this really matters to the Steam Deck, but I just wanted to ramble about this..

But yeah, in my experience, most games tend to work unless broken by anti-cheat... and this list confirms that.

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