Quoting: slaapliedje2) Linus not being patient enough to read the warning.

Most newbie users aren't that patient, especially when it comes to walls of text.

The point is that apt should not have allowed him to break his system in the first place. That should not have happened, and the fault is 10% on that Steam package... and 90% on apt.

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Quoting: GuestI'll refute your argument: he easily saw the line saying what to type in, and by your reasoning that was hidden too.

Linus is to blame for ignoring the warnings. They are now making it more difficult to ignore the warnings, but that doesn't change that he decided to ignore them in the first place.

The line telling him what to type was at the bottom. The warning is in the middle of the screen, blending in.

You and I might read everything a program like apt spits out, but you cannot expect that of a normal user. And Linus, while he did know a little, he was essentially a newbie user to our ecosystem.

What I think should be done is that warning line should be a different colour... and separated with a blank line either side of the warning. Draw attention to the "you will break your system" warning.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeHe typed in the 'Yes I know what I'm doing' even though he clearly did not, and nuked Xorg while it was running. Not sure how that is any fault of apt.

He typed "yes, do as I say"... and the warning was hidden in a huge wall of text. It is absolutely apt's fault.

It was quite literally the line above telling him what to type. It wasn't hidden at all.

There's a screenshot of the error (From this very site)... It's one line in among a lot of white text that says you shouldn't do this. It is essentially hidden, and Linus is not to blame for this badly designed warning.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeHe typed in the 'Yes I know what I'm doing' even though he clearly did not, and nuked Xorg while it was running. Not sure how that is any fault of apt.

He typed "yes, do as I say"... and the warning was hidden in a huge wall of text. It is absolutely apt's fault.

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Quoting: ObsidianBlkThose neon warning signs are there,

I think part of the problem was that there was no neon warning signs. The only warnings Linus got was an error from popshop that wasn't clear on what was happening... and a giant wall of text from apt.

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Way way way way over due IMO. It won't stop people, but it will hopefully slow them down

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Quoting: ZlopezI still have the same opinion on this. Once the developer stops supporting the game, release the code under Open Source license, so the game could either live if there is a community around it or die, if it isn't good.

Some developers do, but that's really the choice of the developer or publisher.

Quoting: ElectroDDStore the project on EU servers.
There was a recent ruling saying that fixing bugs was not a case of copyright infrinment.
Reverse ingeneering is protected under a law in itself to allow interoperability of software on hardware and under this law you can even break DRM to a certain extent.
At least, that's what I understand...

Again, I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure EU law doesn't cover this. This isn't fixing bugs, or anything of that sort. This is a copy of the game, and according to a post above, it was done by reverse engineering the game.

Quoting: ZlopezEDIT: This should be something that is done by law, if nobody owns the rights it should be publicly accessible.

Hmm.

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Quoting: NeoTheFoxI'll be surprised if there's not precedent set for this exact court case.

I did some brief research to try to answer this, but it seems most fan developers just accept defeat and don’t take on a major publisher in court.

That said, i believe copyright extends beyond the physical data (source code, etc).

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It sucks, and the community version was better… but that doesn’t make it legal, and this doesn’t sound like fair use to me. (Hashtag not a lawyer)

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Quoting: d10sfanI think the answer makes sense. There's many native games that are worse experience than Proton. Nothing because of Linux, just a shoddy port.

To be entirely fair, there are a LOT of PC ports that perform way worse than their console counterparts, so this doesn't surprise me.

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