Quoting: GuestManjaro (Stable) got updated and now has this problem, Steam Beta fixed it, so thanks for the heads up:)

Thanks for the warning, I was about to update too, I just left the freetype2 ; I will update it when things will be sorted out :wink:

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: BielFPsBefore someone says "something something Arch bad for steam deck something something" I would like to remember that Steam deck will not pull updates from the main arch Linux repositories, instead Valve will push updates from their official ones, in order to avoid this kind of regressions.

True question: is it like "another Manjaro" (minus the AUR packages, at least for the official version I guess), or something different ?

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: ElectricPrismI need a Steam Link so I can wishlist this and give it a closer look.

Here you are [External Link] :wink:

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: furaxhornyx

Quoting: slaapliedje[...]

Anyhow, the AUR is still questionable in my mind, and even the Arch devs don't readily recommend it. So if you're going to use AUR, keep it to a minimum, it's far too easy for malware to be installed on your system with it. Also the packages get orphaned randomly when people decide they don't want to keep maintaining the PKGBUILD. The fortunate part is the PKGBUILDs are simple and most should be able to read / write them.

Yes, I know, but from my understanding, the same is true with PPA, for example.
And without AUR:

• No easy Skype


• No easy DaVinci Resolve


• No easy Mangohud / GOVerlay


• No easy Heroic Game Launcher / Gamehub


• No easy Blender / Phoronix benchmarks

And of course a lot other useful tools that are equivalent to what I had in windows, with the same ease of installation / removal :smile:

Seriously, if I had to manually install / compile each of those, I would probably be using Windows 10 by now...

1) is in Flatpak/flathub
2) DaVinci Resolve asks for a registration; so how is AUR doing it?
3) I'm surprised GOVerlay hasn't at least been packaged as a binary.
4) I won't support Epic :P
5) Blender has easy install. Phoronix should really package their stuff for ARCH.

Nice to know, because when I was looking for a distro, most were dealing with added PPA. Also, I don't think flatpak was installed by default, but maybe I overlooked this.
Also, I don't remember exactly the registration process for DaVinci, since I installed it a while ago, just to check the compatibility, but never actually used it. It was the free version.
And for Blender, I was speaking about the Blender benchmark, Blender itself is in the official repository. Sorry for the confusion.

Quoting: slaapliedjeBut yeah, do you check the PKGBUILDs for custom patches every time you install it? Because it'd be real easy for someone to insert malicious code this way into anything. This is why there is always the warning for AUR. Doesn't mean it's a terrible idea and shouldn't be used, just be careful with them.

I try to, when I install a new AUR, but I can only check a few things, I don't know all the details in the script langage (whatever is used). But the same applies to most programs on the Internet (when you come from Windows, for example).
Also, how can you be sure that the software in a PPA / Flatpak is not malicious as well ?

Bottom line being, Internet is dangerous :tongue:

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: PublicNuisanceIs anybody else getting fed up with limited time demos ? I don't even bother with them anymore. I work six days a week, not going to schedule time to play a damn demo.

Yes, especially when you want to show the said demo to a friend... and the demo is no longer available...

Still, a time-limited demo is better than no demo at all :smile:

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: slaapliedje[...]

Anyhow, the AUR is still questionable in my mind, and even the Arch devs don't readily recommend it. So if you're going to use AUR, keep it to a minimum, it's far too easy for malware to be installed on your system with it. Also the packages get orphaned randomly when people decide they don't want to keep maintaining the PKGBUILD. The fortunate part is the PKGBUILDs are simple and most should be able to read / write them.

Yes, I know, but from my understanding, the same is true with PPA, for example.
And without AUR:

• No easy Skype


• No easy DaVinci Resolve


• No easy Mangohud / GOVerlay


• No easy Heroic Game Launcher / Gamehub


• No easy Blender / Phoronix benchmarks

And of course a lot other useful tools that are equivalent to what I had in windows, with the same ease of installation / removal :smile:

Seriously, if I had to manually install / compile each of those, I would probably be using Windows 10 by now...

View this comment - View article - View full comments

For me, Linux is now finally a sane alternative to Windows, since the end of Windows 7 support, and despite all its remaining defaults (GPU drivers, dual monitor support, gaming support, music production, random peripherals not recognized properly...).

I remember the first time we tried Redhat 3.2 on a friend's computer, who just got it on a magazine, and as it was supposed to be "incredibly stable" compared to Windows... and how we managed to freeze the whole system in 3 minutes, simply by... inserting an audio CD (to be sure, we even rebooted and reproduced it :grin: ). We had a good laugh, and put the CD back in the magazine...

Since then, I tried several times to give Linux a chance to convince me: Mandrake (later renamed to Mandriva), Suse, Debian, Ubuntu, Puppy,... each time, the result was the same: nothing works, you're supposed to type commands like on the Amstrad from my childhood, and hope the documentation vaguely found on the internet is not obsolete...

But, in september 2019, I was looking again for a Linux distro, to be a replacement for Windows 7. I tried several, and found that Linux Mint was actually useable out-of-the-box (and with a nice DE too: Cinnamon). Then, I found out about Manjaro, which has a Cinnamon edition, and also, the AUR, which is probably one of the best selling point from a Windows user point of view: no need to manually (try to, ahem :whistle:) compile anything, it's all done under the hood.

And that's what made me switch. And seeing like 40% of my games in Steam were Linux native (and most of the one I was playing at the time: Dead Cells, Wizard of Legend, Slay the Spire,...) made me stay :smile:

Quoting: Philadelphus[...](I've just discovered I even wrote a very angry blog post [External Link] about it :whistle:)[..]

I read it, and I found a lot of similarities with my past experiences with Linux, so it's not only you :wink:

Quoting: AussieEevee[...]

ETA: Outside of gaming, I think Linux is perfect. You can do virtually anything you can imagine. While it is true that Adobe products present an issue, there are other powerful alternatives like Davinci Resolve.

While I agree that DaVinci Resolve is a great software (I am not a video editor though), I guess it is not enough to make a lot of people make the switch.

Also, when it comes to music production, Linux is still very far from being a viable alternative ; even if I hope that Bitwig releasing their DAW for Linux will help change this in the future.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Do you dual-boot with a different operating system?

Question: does a VM count ?

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: BielFPs[...]

Any DE who doesn't support Wayland, sooner or latter, tends to no longer being relevant to the majority of users in the future (not counting those corner case of users who'll stay with x11 for some reason), which will be sad because those are very good desktop environments.

Yep, I love cinnamon, and I think there still have no plan to switch to Wayland.
On the other hand, I am still stuck with an nVidia card, so... :whistle:

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: KohlyKohl

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: KohlyKohl

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: KohlyKohl

Quoting: GuestThese regressions cannot happen when the Steam Deck ships and these fixes must NOT be needed. It will reflect badly on Proton, linux and ultimately kill the device

Don't worry, Windows users are already used to workarounds and games not working 😄

In my experience only tinkerers and retro gamers are used to stuff not working.

But even them are more used to the latest or more popular games working out of the box.

Go to any Steam forum or discord for a game and you'll see that this isn't true.

A hundred posts in a forum for a game that sold between 1 to 90 million copies isn't the compelling argument you think it is.

Most games don't sell millions of copies. Also, there are well known cases of games being terrible at launch and in some cases are never fully fixed.

Drivers, antivirus software, Windows updates, and poorly designed software issues happen a lot in Windows. Heck most of us are here because of these issues and Windows gamers have to do deal with those.

All I'm saying is that Windows gamers are used to dealing with issues with games not working and I think that it'll be less of an issue on Steam Deck and not something to worry about.

I am not so sure about that. First, having been a Windows gamer for years, of which not so many AAA titles, I can tell that I rarely encountered issues with games which required tinkering.

Second, the Steam Deck is more of a portable console (in the mind of potentiel users), and most people do not expect having to tinker on a console to make a game works properly.

Quoting: KohlyKohlIf the Steam Deck sells millions and most stay on SteamOS 3, developers are going to ensure their updates work on the Steam Deck. If it doesn't sell enough then it will not matter anyways.

On the other hand, Valve has been marketing the Steam Deck to developers as "just target Windows, and it will work on Steam Deck, no added work needed"...

View this comment - View article - View full comments