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Wine 3.0 RC5 released, it's a pretty quiet one
6 January 2018 at 10:43 pm UTC Likes: 10
6 January 2018 at 10:43 pm UTC Likes: 10
In this wine version final fantasy IX still works, texture mod works too and mscoree as native is not required by launcher
View video on youtube.com
Another interesting this is about how runs certain games after 1 year since 2.0rc series case blades of time
Wine 2.0rc3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWGN3Dboizw
And now with Wine 3.0rc5
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Venetica is other case
With Wine 2.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWJeFTKlke4
And now with Wine 3.0rc5 (CSMT improve performance)
View video on youtube.com
Zombi is another interesting case
With Wine 2.0rc2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAgDEqdv5Wc
And now with Wine 3.0rc5 (CSMT improve performance)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUDp9C1Rvg
^_^
View video on youtube.com
Another interesting this is about how runs certain games after 1 year since 2.0rc series case blades of time
Wine 2.0rc3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWGN3Dboizw
And now with Wine 3.0rc5
View video on youtube.com
Venetica is other case
With Wine 2.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWJeFTKlke4
And now with Wine 3.0rc5 (CSMT improve performance)
View video on youtube.com
Zombi is another interesting case
With Wine 2.0rc2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAgDEqdv5Wc
And now with Wine 3.0rc5 (CSMT improve performance)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUDp9C1Rvg
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29 December 2017 at 8:34 pm UTC
Compiling for new users is really annoying when for this users must be only download and install (ppa is acceptable)
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29 December 2017 at 8:34 pm UTC
Quoting: musojon74I still use 970 with nvidia binary driver. It works. I don't have tearing etc.
To those saying about compiling from source, if we want an upturn in the amount of Linux users we need to make this unnecessary.
Sure we can all do these tasks but many will balk at this task and go back to windows.
Compiling for new users is really annoying when for this users must be only download and install (ppa is acceptable)
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Wine 3.0 RC4 is now available, more glorious bug fixes
29 December 2017 at 8:29 pm UTC Likes: 8
29 December 2017 at 8:29 pm UTC Likes: 8
In this wine version Devil May Cry 4 works with mods
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Avatar stay working but csmt improve performance
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Alexander still works
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Avatar stay working but csmt improve performance
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Alexander still works
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27 December 2017 at 9:58 pm UTC
Yeah exist cemu in lastest versions
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Sadly amd dont have opengl 4.6 for now
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27 December 2017 at 9:58 pm UTC
Quoting: GuestI have no application that uses GL4.6
Yeah exist cemu in lastest versions
View video on youtube.com
Sadly amd dont have opengl 4.6 for now
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27 December 2017 at 8:16 pm UTC
Nothing more to say in this phrase
Wayland dont care for now, as your said too most apps run over x and xwayland have many problems
Sadly amd market quote difficult change* because amd needs improve so much for offer same features than nvidia, as various cited by yourself: random lockups - freezing, driver GUI - lastest opengl support and many others
*In hardware side is worst scenary for amd because them lack of good performance / tdp gpu
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27 December 2017 at 8:16 pm UTC
Quoting: XpanderI don't remember when was the last time nvidia drivers didnt support latest Xorg or Kernel, its been getting new drivers out for the newly released kernel for within 1 week and Xorg hasn't been a problem long long time.
[i]Standard APIs or not, the end user doesn't care.
If it doesn't work it doesn't work.[/i]
I know all the "political" stuff behind all this. Nvidia sucks, yeah. Gsync? F this, their own standards F this... but it works.
Until then i have no plan to switch to AMD if i have to fiddle with things.
If i buy a 500€ hardware i want it to work and get the most performance out of it, not wait for driver improvements or apply loads of workarounds by searching forums and google.
Nothing more to say in this phrase
Quoting: XpanderQuoting: ShmerlIt doesn't, a least not at all seamlessly. Constant screen tearing (especially in Unity games), constant breaking of the system and need to reinstall the driver on each kernel or xorg update, no framebuffer support, Optimus horror story, opaque bug reporting process and etc. and etc. Wayland support? Forget it. If you really don't care about proper system integration, then Nvidia is OK. But I really appreciate how much better AMD works after switching to it. So talking about "just works" - AMD is way ahead, and that's to be expected, AMD are putting an effort into upstreaming their driver, while Nvidia don't care in the least.
And not really accidentally, all those benefits in AMD are from the fact that their drivers are open. My personal favorite feature though is GALLIUM_HUD.
Constant screen tearing? how about ForceCompositionPipline? or 4 years ago when that wasn't a thing there were compositors like compton that fixed it (though there was small perf cost)
Constant breaking of system? what? in 2007, yes. last 5 years, no
framebuffer support, yeah could be handy, but for a user who doesn't need to use TTYs, not a problem.
Optimus support? No idea about this one, who games on laptops anyway, i was talking about Desktop PC's
Wayland support? Wayland is still ways off, many games are not for wayland and perf is much worse with xwayland or whatever translation.
Now lets ask about AMD? Freesync? HDMI/DP audio? (ok those 2 are coming soonish, but what took so much time?) No Simple GUI to change your GPU settings, OC etc? have to use some third-party ones i guess? no OpenGL4.6 support? No Hardware encoder like nvenc.
Or how about hard system lockups with RADV or some other scenarios?
Ok i stop arguing now. Do whatever you want. I will pick my next GPU from the side that delivers performance and feature-set with smallest amount of issues.
Wayland dont care for now, as your said too most apps run over x and xwayland have many problems
Sadly amd market quote difficult change* because amd needs improve so much for offer same features than nvidia, as various cited by yourself: random lockups - freezing, driver GUI - lastest opengl support and many others
*In hardware side is worst scenary for amd because them lack of good performance / tdp gpu
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27 December 2017 at 12:37 pm UTC
I have one of them some years ago with athlon xp 2600+ barton core*, audio chipset (depending manufacturer) will be impressive in this time
*In this times 512kb of L2 are impressive
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27 December 2017 at 12:37 pm UTC
Quoting: PhlebiacQuoting: slaapliedjeThough to be fair, the Opteron system that I had worked great for many years.
Ironically, Nvidia made some of the best AMD motherboard chipsets (nForce).
I have one of them some years ago with athlon xp 2600+ barton core*, audio chipset (depending manufacturer) will be impressive in this time
*In this times 512kb of L2 are impressive
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27 December 2017 at 12:35 pm UTC Likes: 1
Good points too
In my case nvidia works ok (native and non native apps) with ubuntu stable kernel, manual installation
DAL code is a big step in amd drivers (thankfully torvalds approve code) but need stay in stable branch thinking in ubuntu 18.04 LTS launch around Q2 2018
Amd have serious troubles in hardware, as your said vega appears 1 year later with similar performance than pascal but pascal stay since 2016
Vega consume so much for example vega 56 around 210w at stock clock meanwhile GTX 1070 consume 150w at stock clock
Curiously amd invest in hbm for improve consume but in practice consume more than actual nvidia gpus
Amd needs create very good gpu core, improve actual tdp and other things
However with titan v launch seems nvidia dont give to amd any chance of recover
Volta is impressive how much improve in same consume of titan Xp (250w) with much more shaders and others
Without forget using 12nm, and nvidia now have ampere as volta succesor
If volta desktop based cards appears in H1 of 2018 (possible using samsung ddr6), amd stay in serious troubles in hardware side
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27 December 2017 at 12:35 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: Xpanderfault of developers or not, i just want to hit play and be done with it and nvidia currently provides that.
no driver crashes/x crashes since 2007 either.
amd is getting better and better but still not there sadly, still many games that dont work, hdmi audio doesn't work etc, yeah yeah 4.15 will fix hdmi audio and stuff but its not stable kernel yet.
since i own GTX 1070, i have nowhere to upgrade really with the ~500€ GPU budget range. vega 56 is pretty much same in terms of performance if the drivers work and only now some of the non-ref cooler cards started to appear, which is a bit late to the party, GTX 1070 is more than a year old and all AMD achieved was similar performance on the same price range 1 year later than nvidia.
hoping to see what the next year brings with volta and vega2?
Good points too
In my case nvidia works ok (native and non native apps) with ubuntu stable kernel, manual installation
DAL code is a big step in amd drivers (thankfully torvalds approve code) but need stay in stable branch thinking in ubuntu 18.04 LTS launch around Q2 2018
Amd have serious troubles in hardware, as your said vega appears 1 year later with similar performance than pascal but pascal stay since 2016
Vega consume so much for example vega 56 around 210w at stock clock meanwhile GTX 1070 consume 150w at stock clock
Curiously amd invest in hbm for improve consume but in practice consume more than actual nvidia gpus
Amd needs create very good gpu core, improve actual tdp and other things
However with titan v launch seems nvidia dont give to amd any chance of recover
Volta is impressive how much improve in same consume of titan Xp (250w) with much more shaders and others
Without forget using 12nm, and nvidia now have ampere as volta succesor
If volta desktop based cards appears in H1 of 2018 (possible using samsung ddr6), amd stay in serious troubles in hardware side
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26 December 2017 at 11:45 pm UTC
Another annoying things in amd drivers (good point)
Without forget dont have complete opengl extensions (them stay close to 4.6 but need conformant test once time lack extensions stay ready)
AZDO extensions have serious retrace, in last 6 months dont advance much (in this time them must be have all AZDO extensions complete with conformant tests)
Compatibility is another big issue in amd drivers
Bugs in various titles native and non native
For now nvidia is "just works" driver for most apps native and non native
Hopefully amd them can improve in 2018 for have better options
But in hardware side them lack of tdp / performance gpu, maybe if navi appears using 7nm can show interesting product
^_^
26 December 2017 at 11:45 pm UTC
Quoting: LeopardNope.
First of all , AMD driver space is so fragmented.
OpenGL side ; you will get better performance from open source drivers.
Vulkan ; mixed results. Sometimes Radv sometimes closed source driver wins. I hope AMDVLK can improve RADV.
So as a gamer ; we want performance right? Yeah , then we should use open source drivers.
But on Mesa you can't play some games without doing workarounds. For example; Divinity , Dying Light , X11 etc.
With Amdgpu Pro ; you don't need to hassle like that but it will cost you performance wise. Also note that Hdmi audio , Freesync etc are not available with Mesa.
So ; AMD is not "just" works.
Another annoying things in amd drivers (good point)
Without forget dont have complete opengl extensions (them stay close to 4.6 but need conformant test once time lack extensions stay ready)
AZDO extensions have serious retrace, in last 6 months dont advance much (in this time them must be have all AZDO extensions complete with conformant tests)
Compatibility is another big issue in amd drivers
Bugs in various titles native and non native
For now nvidia is "just works" driver for most apps native and non native
Hopefully amd them can improve in 2018 for have better options
But in hardware side them lack of tdp / performance gpu, maybe if navi appears using 7nm can show interesting product
^_^
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26 December 2017 at 5:22 pm UTC Likes: 1
Without forget freezing in certain apps
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26 December 2017 at 5:22 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: LeopardQuoting: tmtvlUgh, still so many people using the crappy NVidia garbage. I suppose that'll change as Wayland becomes more prominent.
Wonder how many people are gonna switch from Intel to AMD after the IME stuff...
Because it works most of the time and performs better than AMD.
Without forget freezing in certain apps
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26 December 2017 at 2:44 pm UTC Likes: 2
Easy to explain because more titles run on nvidia than amd (because some titles have nvidia optimizations, etc)
And other things case in global situation amd still dont offer same features than nvidia:
-In software: driver GUI, power limit features, dont depend lastest llvm, kernel (llvm and lastest kernel could be problematic in debian and more problematic in ubuntu based distros*)
-In hardware: better performance/tdp)
*Important because debian (SteamOS)/ubuntu based distros are official supported distributions
Widely supported in native and non native (wine ports in steam case topware interactive titles), intel and amd gpus are not supported or broken shaders dont fix, observer door and others
Wayland still too inmature, many problems: input, xwayland, compatibility, etc
Maybe when wayland stay polish could be relevant but for now dont matter because most apps runs with X
^_^
26 December 2017 at 2:44 pm UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: tmtvlUgh, still so many people using the crappy NVidia garbage. I suppose that'll change as Wayland becomes more prominent.
Wonder how many people are gonna switch from Intel to AMD after the IME stuff...
Easy to explain because more titles run on nvidia than amd (because some titles have nvidia optimizations, etc)
And other things case in global situation amd still dont offer same features than nvidia:
-In software: driver GUI, power limit features, dont depend lastest llvm, kernel (llvm and lastest kernel could be problematic in debian and more problematic in ubuntu based distros*)
-In hardware: better performance/tdp)
*Important because debian (SteamOS)/ubuntu based distros are official supported distributions
Widely supported in native and non native (wine ports in steam case topware interactive titles), intel and amd gpus are not supported or broken shaders dont fix, observer door and others
Wayland still too inmature, many problems: input, xwayland, compatibility, etc
Maybe when wayland stay polish could be relevant but for now dont matter because most apps runs with X
^_^
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