Quoting: AussieEeveeA normal user is not going to run a command in the terminal to fix something that should not have broken

He ran the command in the terminal to break it. If he'd stuck with the GUI he would not have broken it.

It was a temporary packaging bug (fixed within a couple of hours, as I understand it). Yes, it's unfortunate that it happened, but turning that into removing xorg was Linus' choice. He literally typed in "yes, do as I say!" when his computer told him that removing xorg was potentially harmful and "should NOT be done unless you know what you're doing." From the command line, which you say normal users won't use.

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There was nothing that Pop could have done here, except having 100% bug-free software 100% of the time, which is impossible.

If Linus has updated his package list, he wouldn't have had the problem. If Linus had just waited till the next day, he wouldn't have had the problem. If Linus had asked for help, he wouldn't have had the problem. The GUI prevented him from breaking his system. Those are the solutions for the new user that Linus claims that he wants to emulate.

Instead, he went into the command line and ran a command, read the output that said it would break everything and should not be done unless the user knew exactly what they were doing (which, obviously he doesn't), and typed out a specific phrase to do it anyway. Those are the actions of someone who's already said that they want an excuse to use Arch and wants some controversy to drive engagement and therefore revenue, rather than the actions of a new user that genuinely wants to use Linux.

Even after he'd broken everything, he managed to get to a console login. If he'd asked anyone for help at that point, or simply wanted to fix it himself, he could have used sudo apt install pop-desktop to get back to where he was. But he got his "engaging" content, and he got his excuse to run something Arch-based, so he didn't bother.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyA couple extra months could make a significant difference.

It does mean that 5.16 (with lots of handy dandy stuff for Van Gogh and the Deck) will be out before it launches, rather than probably out before it launches. So that's probably made someone a lot more relaxed.

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If they can get other distros to help share the maintenance burden, that will make things a lot easier. The Ubuntu devs have also expressed dissatisfaction with Gnome's approach, and they're Pop's upstream, so they would be a good asset if they could be persuaded to join in. Of course, Ubuntu devs are going to be concentrating on their next LTS release right now and really won't want to swap out desktops just at the moment, and the Pop devs might be wanting to use their new DE to differentiate themselves from their upstream anyway. There was a third distro, too, that was grumpy with Gnome, but I can't remember which one right now.

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Quoting: poisondYou'd need 2 gyro controllers or use a stick+gyro because you manually control thrust+yaw+pitch+roll in acro mode.
I just gave it a try with a steam controller, gyro for pitch+roll, stick for thrust+yaw. Absolutely zero chance I'd be able to pull it off ^^

The idea of gyro in a game controller (other than the Wii) is that it's a supplement to other controls, doubling up something else, rather than a sole means of control. To allow fine control that would otherwise be clamped by the dead zone.

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Quoting: poisondI use it for training and I don't think I'll even attempt fly a race quad with gyro _ever_. If somebody manages to fly in acro/airmode with gyro - respect.

Do quad controllers (until the Deck is released) generally have gyro? Gyro in game controllers is increasingly becoming a thing to overcome the dead zone problem: no dead zone makes controls too twitchy, and too large a dead zone makes controls imprecise; tuning that to work well for everyone is a tricky task.

Are there people playing this without owning a quadcopter?

I expect that's their plan; quadcopters are pretty niche, but the gaming market is huge.

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I hope they'll implement robust support for gyro controls.

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Quoting: GuestThe thing is these small form factor machines are pretty cool for their size but they fall in a weird middle ground area of cons.

The specific feature of this form factor is that they can fit on a VESA mount so they have zero footprint. Like an all-in-one, but trivially serviceable: take one off, put another one on.

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Quoting: elmapul" enabled by launching Steam with -pipewire-dmabuf"
its so hard to put an graphical setting to turn this config on?
an checkbox...

Yes. This is the very first implementation, only of interest to tinkerers who would have no problem adding a launch option. By the point that it's not primarily of interest to tinkerers, it won't need to have an option anyway. So there's no point doing the UI work on just the one platform that sometimes has PipeWire.

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Quoting: scaineDefinitely tiny in relative terms, but it still blows my mind to think that there are potentially well over a million active monthly users on Steam that run Linux. It's pretty incredible given the choke hold MS has on the vast majority of the population.

Here's a thing. When Valve first made their Linux gaming push, Gabe Newell said, "we want to make it as easy as possible for the 2,500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well." The entire Steam catalogue then, which no one would have said was small, was 2,500 games. Today there are 8,000 Linux-native games on Steam. The Linux gaming market is big, only looking small compared to PC gaming as a whole, and the over a million monthly active Linux gaming user base is already big enough for the developers of 15% of the games on Steam to say, "yes, I'd like a piece of that." We need growth, sure, but we don't really need to get that much bigger for more developers to take note, and for us to get onto the virtuous cycle side of the chicken and the egg. Bigger than Mac (historically maybe ~5%, now only ~3%, with nearly 14,000 games) yes, but maybe 10% could get us to the point that more games are released on Linux than not? 15%? It's clearly not too expensive a venture, or the developers of those 15% of games wouldn't have been doing it already.

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