Quoting: damarrinThat is nice. I was talking about Linux only hardware vendors, however.

Nonetheless, you can get a 16:10 laptop with Linux pre-installed from Dell. I agree that it would be better if other manufacturers could provide that as well.

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Quoting: tuubiOnly in the Precision and XPS lineups I think.

That seems likely. Plus their monitors. I was just saying that there are 16:10 options out there.

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Quoting: damarrinI wish 16:10 screens would come back. :-(

Dells have 16:10 screens.

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Quoting: LinuxwarperFirst off, any developer tries to make their game work on Linux through Proton is not against Linux. Regardless of how many people has wished for GOG Galaxy and Cyberpunk natively, you can't deny the market share. It's not enough to sustain native development of the scale that Cyberpunk is.

They did all the work to make a native version of the scale of Cyberpunk 2077 already: they developed it for Debian using Vulkan. They just won't sell it to us.

CDPR's involvement in "making it work on Linux through Proton" was bunging Valve a beta key, which cost them literally nothing. Valve wrote an extension for Vulkan to make it work, Valve contributed to Mesa to make it work, Valve hired developers to work on Proton to make it work; CDPR did absolutely nothing.

Developers should be rewarded for their support of Linux gaming, but CDPR haven't given any. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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One major issue is with most modern Linux distributions moving to a major Python update, which broke SC Controller. Thankfully, as of the v0.4.8 release that's not so much a problem with the AppImage now working on Ubuntu 20.04 and comparable distributions.

Python 3 has been out for 12 years, and Python 2 has been EOL for a year already. Containerisation is useful in its own right, but using it to limp along with a dead Python version doesn't seem like a great plan for something that's under active development.

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The GPU in the M1 performs at roughly the level of the 1050 Ti. Later models, or models in machines with a higher power budget, are likely to get more performance.

Apple aren't going to move away from Metal unless they come up with something else that they completely control. They control the full hardware stack, the OS, the APIs, and the tools that devs are able to use. They can change any of them at will to benefit what they want to do with the Apple ecosystem.

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Quoting: MohandevirWhat's sad about this title is that it went through an Epic exclusivity deal (not going to go any further than that) and then, a year later, we got it on Steam (Windows only). It's been over 9 months since the release on Steam... All in all, the game has been available for a little less than 2 years and still nothing about the Linux version... I really wanted to wait for it, but I began to think that 4A had probably given up on it. So, what was I suppose to do? Now I know that I was probably wrong (the Linux version is not out yet and there is no firm date either), but at that moment, I tought the choice was to wait for a port that may never happen or buy it and play it with Proton...

I understand the stakes, but all that stuff about Proton vs Natives is giving me headaches in cases like this...

Neither you nor vskye, nor anyone else that played it through Proton did anything wrong by doing so. It's a brilliant solution: you get to enjoy the game on Linux, they get to know that they made a Linux sale. It really is the second-best outcome, and for many games there isn't a better solution at all. My position is that, in aggregate, we'd like devs to make more money if they don't break their game in Proton, and even more money if they support Linux.

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Quoting: vskyeAwesome news, since I bought this game already.., anticipating a Linux release. It's rated as Platinum on ProtonDB as is btw.

I'm not going to tell other people how to spend their money.

Buying on Linux and playing through Proton counts as a Linux sale, which is good, and shows that there's a market of Linux gamers. Sales on Linux after they've released a Linux version show that it's profitable to support Linux. If they'll get the sale anyway, without providing any support, then there's less incentive for them to give that support. It's the support costs that scare devs, and they'd really like to know that they're going to get their money back.

Just something to think about.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyApple have been such tools about this stuff.

They really really don't like having their destiny under someone else's control. Which isn't that surprising, given the history of the company. But it does make them somewhat difficult to work with.

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Quoting: gustavoyaraujoI'm not very into this... But, does it mean We will get a better performance in games we already play on proton? Any example?

What this means is that Vulkan games that do ray tracing (of which there are currently two) can be run on AMD or Intel hardware as well as on Nvidia hardware; Nvidia have had hardware that can accelerate ray tracing for a couple of years, AMD have just released their own (and the consoles), and Intel are due to release theirs next year. The number of games that use Vulkan, and the number of games that use ray tracing, are both likely to go up over time, particularly as hardware to do it becomes more widespread.

It also means that games that use DirectX for ray tracing (which will work on Windows on AMD and Intel hardware, as well as on Nvidia hardware) now have something to be translated to so that they'll able to be made to run on Linux (through Proton). There are more than two of those. It was difficult to do before, and would have only worked for hardware from one company.

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