Quoting: AppelsinI think most of the shit Canonical got was due to them literally trying to force you to use the snap, if you wanted to or not. Not because it shipped as a snap, which of course is up to them, but you couldn’t even uninstall it and sudo apt install “normal” Firefox, since *buntu was set up to install the Snap version even if you did the command to install apt/deb version. That, I think, was a mistake on their part, to think would go over well with people.

Which alternative method to you propose to get those users upgrading from a prior release (where the package existed) onto the snap (which is supported) rather than the package (which no longer exists)? Note that your chosen method will need to both be seamless for users and reduce the maintenance burden for the Ubuntu devs.

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Quoting: play0adWe're actually really interested in what it would take to go on Steam properly, and whether we can at all so please get in touch if you know what's required.

It's mostly $100 and agreeing to the Distribution and SDK Access agreements. The rest is mostly best practices stuff: localisation, branding requirements, controller support, stuff like that. The best bet would probably be to talk to other folks that have already done it: Supertux, Blender, RetroArch, are ones that come to mind. For rustling up the $100 you could take donations, potentially with a specific call to action. You might also consider Early Access as an option if you feel the game isn't quite ready yet, although you wouldn't want to stay like that forever.

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Quoting: dziadulewiczIt may work yes, but the thing is it does not launch out of the box clicking Play. We are talking about the desktop here not Steam Deck. The Steam in question is most certainly not flatpak. Check out the discussions on SuperTux on Steam: it's filled with "not launching" or similar threads.

I just tried it on my Linux desktop. Absolutely zero issues out of the box. Hit Install, it installs. Hit Play, and it launches and runs fine.

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Quoting: MilesWhile it's ethically sus, is that illegal or even against any of the game's open source license or Steam agreements/rules?

The copyright holder can choose to dual-licence their code - GPL and Steam's EULA in this case. No one else can take GPL code and slap additional restrictions on the end user. That's a copyright violation.

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Quoting: dziadulewiczThat said, SuperTux does not launch on Linux in Steam because its a AppImage package and problems related to that. It's quite ironic that SuperTux does not work OOTB on Linux :dizzy:

It works fine on Linux in Steam: it was the second game I installed on the Deck. The appimage had problems only if you were using flatpak Steam.

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Quoting: DefaultX-od

PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=0

So now by default Nvidia gpu is hidden? Is that correct? Or is this specific to this game only?

DXVK has been pretending that Nvidia GPUs are AMD ones for years. Some games see Nvidia GPUs and then use an Nvidia-specific code path, which didn't work at all till NVAPI support got wired up. Some Proton games (in particular those that have DLSS) can have the Nvidia GPU exposed automatically through the manifest settings. Otherwise you can do it yourself with this option.

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I'm just going to repeat my observation that point & click games are really awesome to play on the Steam Deck.

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Getting Prism on Flathub will hopefully be a priority target, so that it's easy to use on the Deck.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI too have been getting the feeling that, rather to my surprise, and despite some high profile counterexamples, I'm seeing a bit more native Linux releases than before the Deck.

I spent a bit of time on SteamDB checking the numbers.

Year    Total   Linux   Proportion
2012      323      87       26.9%
2013      461     178       38.6%
2014    1,603     488       30.4%
2015    2,637     842       31.9%
2016    4,289   1,056       24.6%
2017    6,163   1,168       19.0%
2018    8,035   1,216       15.1%
2019    7,745     976       12.6%
2020    9,576   1,098       11.5%
2021   11,536   1,222       10.6%
2022   11,041   1,159       10.5%

The Deck might have stopped the number going down (or that might be a natural floor for the size of market and inherent preferences of game developers) but it hasn't made it go up yet. Fingers crossed that it ultimately will, though.

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Quoting: EhvisAlso, seeing how many games release on a daily basis demonstrates why indies have issues getting noticed.

For added context, there were 11,624 games released in 2021; that's 31.8 games per day, up from 26.9 new games per day in 2020. 2022 is averaging 34.7 new games per day.

(figures taken from https://steamdb.info/stats/releases/) [External Link]

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