Do Dell still operate with a charger technology where the battery won't charge unless it's an original Dell charger?
They had an additional signal sent in the charger cable that told the motherboard if it was a charger from their brand. If not, the battery would not charge.

That's what made me promise to never touch a Dell product again. Stuff like that furiates me.

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The two LEGO Marvel Super Heroes games are really good. They are fully open world cities once you're past the opening missions. An enormous amount of stuff to do.

they are like GTA for kids with superpowers thrown in. 😊

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This is actually so common that people would probably be surprised. Over a certain timespan, purchase a stack of the same model of some computer, tear them apart and you *will* find differences.

And it's been like this since forever. I recall home computers back in the 80s when we had a ball tinkering with those things: The same model could even have different chipsets on the motherboard. All depending on what production line it came out of.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeSome of it is even down to what drivers you use. While AMD drivers are out there in the kernel, I have had less issues with my nvidia setup than I have read others complain about with native versions.

That is actually a very good point. Another factor to consider in this picture.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyAs a counterpoint I'd like to note that I first got a game working on Proton two days ago, but in all my time of playing native titles the only ones I've found to not work any more are my old Loki games.

But are you now talking about "real" native binaries, source code fully written to be compiled on Linux, or do you talk about the "ports" (Feral & co)? Because that's a major difference.

I totally believe that "proper" native games runs well as long as the libraries they depend on are available/compatible with your system setup. It should, really.

But I primarily speak about the "ports" we usually find on Steam (I struggle even calling it that) that's based on using libraries that's equivalents of Wine, typically the bigger games. Those have turned out to often run better (better performance) through Proton. Some even technically better (less audio issues etc).

But there are even examples of games made on Unity that has turned out to actually run better through Proton. That's almost tragic :D

But I mean, sure, a lot of native games do run well, especially the smaller/less complex ones. But the million dollar question is: Do they run BETTER than via Proton.
That's the real question. Because if not, there's really no technical reason for Valve to make it more complicated than necessary.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeBut then you get into the conundrum of which version of Proton?

Theoretically, yes.
But then we are back to probability. The probability of a game working on the latest version (if working on Proton at all) is very high. Just like the probability of a native game running as good or better on Proton is very high. And vice versa, if a game doesn't work on the latest version it probably won't work on earlier versions either.

Simply put I play exclusively on Proton, so I have some mileage on it. And it's been quite a while since I had to choose an earlier version to run a specific game. It's happened, yes, but it's one or two titles and maybe two years ago - maybe even longer.
And, come to think of it, then it's always been to go from experimental to latest stable.

Bu that's just my experience. That's not to say it won't or doesn't happen anymore. I'm sure it will. An extra layer does add complexity.
It's just that statistically speaking Proton works bloody well, and increasingly so for each month.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeShould be a simple process here;

if native ask;
if native version is working...
is the game released cross platform or ported by a third party?
if third party, has third party been keeping it in sync with first party?
if no; go proton
if yes; go native
if cross-platform released by first party; go native

Problem is, it's not that easy. What defines "working"? How can they automate a test on performance proton vs native? How about multiplayer games that won't work cross platform? Or native versions that's abandoned next week? Or single player games with a multiplayer additional mode that's not working? Or a game that runs well native, but with a DLC that's not ported?

I think they need to keep it simple for practical reasons. If it works on Proton, chances are very high that it'll work as good or better than the native version. That's just the reality.

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Omg how intensely I hate that company. I could describe why but Liam would only have to censor me for foul language.

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Quoting: TermyI must admit this does have some merit, especially for older games. I've had several instances where the native version wouldn't work (at all or properly, mainly controller-issues) but running it with proton worked like a charm.

This is indeed my experience too. A significant performance or stability improvement - or even the game not fully working in the "native" version.
For example I've had several audio issues running the native version who were gone when switching to Proton.

So statistically, for a device that should "just work", the safer route is to run it all under Proton - also for future stability. There's plenty examples of games with a native version where the Linux version lagged severely behind on patches.

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Quoting: damarrinYou realise it’s 5% of 1%, which means 0.05% of all users?

Oh daaaayyyymn... No I didn't think of that. DUH!
Ok so THAT's a lot less impressive indeed. Damn. It's barely anything at all.

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