Quoting: Beamboom"... Why?" is the question that pops up in my mind. Are people willing to pay for Tetris, Space Invaders, Styx and Pong again too?

... Why?

If it is something worth paying for, why not?

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: LinasJava is not hip or exciting, it is boring and reliable.

Reliability is what I’m worried about. In my experience it is not reliable. For example, Blocks that matter on Steam has never worked for me. Now I know it’s not the case for all java games and some non-java games also do not work… Puppygames makes games in java that work, and they provide everything needed for the game to work. No need to choose and install one of the 4 different java versions on my system.

Yes, it is possible to break Java, but let us judge every game on its' own merit. Or you can just say, hey at least it is not eON wrapper. :) (no flamewar intended)

Quoting: GuestUnfortunately the developer of Slipstream does not provide everything needed (for the demo at least); hopefully that will change for the full release.

Not sure what you mean by that? What is missing? I just started it like "java -jar SlipstreamDemo2.1.jar" and it worked.

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This game looks awesome. Definitely invokes nostalgia, but in a modern way. As in what we remember them to be, not what they actually looked like. As for Java, that is a good thing. Java is not hip or exciting, it is boring and reliable. But that is what you want when you have to manage a project of a reasonable size.

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Six years of work and dedication. Cheers to that.

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Quoting: LinasIt does have the same floaty laggy mouse input like Witcher 2 and Bioshock Infinite. Not severe, but definitely noticeable, especially after doing a few rounds of Counter-Strike: GO.

So I'm not the only one to notice it. I tried to get into The Witcher 2 and play it in Linux when it was finally running well and I had a horrific time doing battle in general and died A LOT [...] after many deaths and ended up getting frustrated with it and quit playing.

I gave up on Witcher 2, because I had trouble pointing even to the general direction of where I was aiming at. I have not tried it in a while, so it might be better now...

Quoting: EKRboiAs for Spec Ops. It crashed 3 times on me in maybe 15 minutes.... so I didn't really get to see if the input lag was an issue. I'll probably wait for a patch or two before trying again. @ 1080p it ran @ 60fps no problems other than the "loading stutter" others mentioned, even with it running from an SSD and having pretty fast DDR4 RAM. Oh well, glad it was on sale.

From my experience, 60 FPS is the lower limit for when the input lag starts getting annoying. I never had a top-end gaming machine, so I am quite used to playing at 30 FPS, and it generally does not bother me unless it goes down to 20. When this happens in native games, things become choppy, but input generally remains accurate. Whereas in eON games, when the FPS drop, it still looks smooth on screen, but feels laggy as if it was streaming. This variable lag really messes with my senses.

That and the fact that eON provides 1/2 of the native performance at best is not a good combination. But what annoys me the most is that VP keep doing action games where stuff like this is so noticeable.

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It does have the same floaty laggy mouse input like Witcher 2 and Bioshock Infinite. Not severe, but definitely noticeable, especially after doing a few rounds of Counter-Strike: GO.

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Excuse me for going off topic, but what the heck are "Russian territories"? There is Russian Federation a.k.a. Russia, and everything else is not Russia.

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I am not sure I like the game so much anymore. Way too much grinding for my taste. Simply finishing every mission once will not give you enough points to properly upgrade your characters, and you will very quickly be overwhelmed by enemies who have more health, armor, damage, and action points than your characters. So you have to repeat the missions for challenges like killing specific enemies in specific order, killing certain amount with a certain character, etc.

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Oh, man... Both Witcher 2 and Bioshock Infinite are unplayable for me because of the input lag. It looks good and is smooth, but it feels like some sort of replay. I move a mouse, and it smoothly and accurately repeats my movements on screen, but after I have already finished the movement. I am not playing competitively, and do not care about milliseconds, but this here is ridiculous.

And why do they keep doing action games where this stuff is so important? Just makes me sad that publishers keep falling for this kind of stunt. Probably because it is cheaper than a native port.

My specs, just for fun: Intel Core i7-4702HQ CPU, NVIDIA Quadro K1100M GPU, 16GB RAM.

Me sad. :(

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Playing this right now. I have completed about 1/3 of the game, and have not noticed any problems. Seems like a good quality port. The game itself is also not bad. The controls are well done. You can play with just a mouse, but it also has key bindings for most of the actions.

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