The problem is not how to get 32 bit libraries onto the users' systems.

That works all fine natively or in Flatpak or however.

The problem is how to get/make/maintain the libraries in the first place.

Ubuntu people said (6 years ago already!) that the environment, tools and the libs themselves are brittling.

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It seems quite solid: minimal id information for the service provider and no way for an attestation provider to track which sites you are showing the attestation to.

How they're doing it right at least once... ;)

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I got the notification to participate on my Windows dual boot but not on my Nobara partition 🫩

Did you deny? :whistle:

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The analogy with driving also works in reverse to show how absurd the new laws are. What if the government suddenly started requiring all vehicle be equipped with a gps module constantly streaming its position to the authorities because "it will protect the children".

You're aware that something along these lines is already in place?!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECall [External Link]

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Seems to be an unpopular opinion but - good riddance. I'm tired of this wild west era of the internet where any platform can have anything on it and not be held responsible. Sure, no implementation will be perfect, but why not make the haram stuff a bit more difficult to access, eh? If this is what it takes to expose a few less people to traumatizing or shocking content all willy-nilly.

Now, I too, feel that the implementation of these being left to the free market is a bad idea. I want a transparent trust-free ubiquitous social service (from the government) identifying people and confirming to platform holder whether I am qualified for the content (jurisdiction & age). I will not give my ID to Google or platform partners (who mess things up completely in case of smaller platforms).

Thanks for writing this. My little one, eight years young, started using Google this week. Yes, I will have to steer that, but I appreciate some content to be behind age verification check.

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That's not what this article says though... It explicitly states that NVIDIA will be ending driver support for the aforementioned cards.

I actually took what I said from the article. :)

..."they've now confirmed the 580 series will be the last supported for GPUs based on"...

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The alternative is to just not do it and pretend this is a defensible position. I don't think "but having my OS actually run software is hard and users who insist on it are being unrealistic" is a defensible technical position.

"I'm not going to do this in my free time; it's no fun" is an understandable position, though...

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I think that the situation is the opposite. Windows doesn't kill anything, it keeps very old components for decades that makes the operating system extremely heavy and inefficient.

When we're talking about old libraries, the "advantage" of Windows is "DLL Hell": Every game has it's own libraries lying around, and nobody cares that the versions are outdated, unmaintained and have more holes than a Swiss Cheese.

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Don't you think Flatpak will face the same problem as Ubuntu and Fedora?

Why would it? That's antithetical to the concept of Flatpak itself. The purpose of it is to provide sandboxed environments for applications that contain the exact dependencies they need. These dependencies are not installed to the system resources directory (/usr) like typical libraries, and it would make absolutely no sense to disallow the use of i386 libs since they aren't actually touching the base OS.

There's no problem with "touching the base OS". 32 bit and 64 bit can reside side by side all fine.

The problem is that 32 bit libraries are more and more unmaintained, more and more difficult to build.
(Fedora people are saying this in 2025 - and Ubuntu people have been saying this in 2019 already! (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/intel-32bit-packages-on-ubuntu-from-19-10-onwards/11263/2)

What's "antithetical to the concept of Flatpak" here?
Delivering maintained software? (Sorry, I could absolutely not resist.)

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10xx still covers around %10 of Steam survey and is more than enough for some people. They got the cut too early and new Mesa drivers can't properly support them due to no GSP.

They still do get the next driver. The next driver series. So I think it sounds more dangerous than it is at the moment.

(It gets closer to my GTX 1660S though...)

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