Quoting: Geppeto35Yes, it worked. I can see and use the desktop. But no lan/internet and ultra low resolution that I can't change. Anyway, ubuntu works on it by day-one, but I would have preferred to use debian 4 ethic and personal convictions ^^

It would be hard to fix without network. :)

Did you use a "non-free" installer? It should solve most hardware usage problems.

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Quoting: GuestG2A (and other grey market sites) are not the problem, they are a symptom.

A symptom of what?

The problem of bundles?
The problem of the possibility to resell keys?

The problem of people being greedy?

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Quoting: Geppeto35no, I think that the kernel doesn't support this new (well..hummm not so but seems anyway) material, according to the returns from some forum replies I had.
They advised me to try newer kernel and install them by myself, but I failed (well it worked, but many other programs were down after)

I'm still unsure. :)

Do you get a running system?
(Then I might be able to help you.)

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Quoting: Geppeto35Problem: I always quit the debian install for another distro 'cause those kernels coming from ages! How to get bugs and materials working with such delay on kernel! I'm pretty sure solutions exist to get those materials working (last example: a small Pc based on intel https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/128990/intel-pentium-silver-n5000-processor-4m-cache-up-to-2-70-ghz.html [External Link] -> no way to make it working -network and intel gpu-)

I'm not sure if I understand the problem. Is the installer failing due to not supporting the hardware because it's too old? Or does installing work and you would like newer drivers in the running system?

If you've got hardware needing non-FLOSS drivers, there's a "non-free" installer for that.

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Looks like it'll be an AMD CPU for the first time since... Athlon? this year (and an Nvidia GPU)! :)

Anybody got an idea if 8 cores will be way more future-proof than six cores?
Is/will gaming be making use of them?

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Quoting: MadVillainI see. Guess I will try it later again. Thank you.

I don't want to persuade anybody to use Debian.
But I feel it is less hard and less outdated than people think.

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Quoting: MadVillainThe latest drivers I found for Debian is 390.48 [External Link].

This is the best place to look:
https://packages.debian.org/de/experimental/nvidia-driver [External Link]
You can click through the releases on the upper right, but if you want the latest, "experimental" is fine.

Quoting: MadVillainAlso, they are way harder to install than on LM. On LM I just add PPA and install them via driver manager, but on Debian I have to install everything manually and often it goes wrong.

In Debian, you're also adding the repository to the sources (once in a lifetime), and then you're doing
sudo apt-get -t experimental[or whatever Debian suite you want to use at the moment] install nvidia-driver
That's it.

Quoting: MadVillainAfter installing drivers I had a problem with Steam not launching because of some missing libraries (seems to be driver-related) and of course I had to manually install those too.

When you have it setup once correctly, the above command and a reboot is all you need.

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Quoting: MadVillainLately I tried to switch from LM to LMDE and I switched back the next day, because pretty much nothing worked.
It was a pain in the ass to even launch Steam and none of the games worked.

I can't comment about LMDE, but installing and running steam and Nvidia drivers on Debian is some simple commands:
https://ein-eike.de/2016/08/28/how-to-install-steam-and-nvidia-drivers-on-debian-jessie/ [External Link]

Quoting: MadVillainAlso, the latest Nvidia drivers are not available for Debian.

AFAICS, the latest drivers from Nvidia [External Link] are 430.26, while the latest Nvidia drivers packaged by Debian [External Link] are 430.26. (Don't let yourself fool by the word "experimental". That's not more experimental than Arch, some PPA or whatever.)

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For those who don't care about the latest software, but might need a current graphics driver or kernel, there will be a buster-backports repository (like an official PPA, if you will).

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Quoting: ArdjePlease don't end up like this:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150718153527/http://www.linuxgames.com/ [External Link]

It was my favourite site for over a decade.

If you look for the first archive: https://web.archive.org/web/19981202030257/http://www.linuxgames.com:80/ [External Link]

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.gamingonlinux.com/ [External Link]

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