Quoting: Linux_RocksHowever plebian on-board sound is a disgrace. I'm glad that my Sound Blaster AE-7 works *better* in Linux than Windows.

I once had my Windows installation (long time ago) give up on my SoundBlaster due to an update (I think it was Vista). Linux continued to support it. It's not always Linux that's failing on hardware support...

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Quoting: GuestHow is an AI supposed to "create" or "innovate" when it just vomits associations of other work it has been trained upon?

AI is more "creative" than most humans.

These comparisons are getting ridiculous. Yes, computers are less creative than Pablo Picasso, less intelligent than Albert Einstein and every some million miles of driving, they are killing a person. But they can compete with an average human in all of these fields easily. Mots of us don't write poems or paint pictures at all.

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Quoting: fabertaweThis is not generally a good thing, in my view. Jobs will be lost and the quality of human creativity will be diluted and swamped by a tsunami of this stuff.

The strange thing is that now AI is painting and writing poems, while humans are doing hard work for minimal wages.

Wasn't this once supposed to be the other way around...?

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: hardpenguinYes, this is good. Gotta get rid of the AI generated images (it is difficult to call it art).

It's obvious that this will not happen, right?

I do understand - and share - such feelings, but in the end, it's like trying to get rid of photos in the early stages of photography because they're "not art".

People said similar things about music sharing--where did it go?

Erm, I got no idea which similarity you're pointing at here. (Music sharing, like with Napster?)

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: hardpenguinYes, this is good. Gotta get rid of the AI generated images (it is difficult to call it art).

It's obvious that this will not happen, right?

I do understand - and share - such feelings, but in the end, it's like trying to get rid of photos in the early stages of photography because they're "not art".

People said similar things about music sharing--where did it go?

Erm, I got no idea which similarity you're pointing at here. (Music sharing, like with Napster?)

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: FSE

Quoting: EikeThey could Paint Yoda and Harry already.

Painting Yoda or Harry is IP infringement unless one can prove fair use.

You missunderstood what I tried to say: They can paint Yoda and Harry already, and thus infringe copyright, just like they can with AI. So I see nothing new with regards to Yoda and Harry.

Yeah, but the point is everything an AI produces is somebody's Yoda or Harry--maybe two or three somebodies mixed together if you're lucky.

Ok, I do get the point, but I don't believe the premise is true. AI can come up with stuff at the back that doesn't look like anything put in at the front. (When I think of it, my body ca... well, let's skip that. :D )

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Quoting: blindcoderI _want_ to pick one up, but it's _still_ a lot of money for a device I don't really _need_.

Yep, can relate. It isn't like I ever go outside, but it'd be fun to tinker with and waste time for that one occasion when going outside is mandatory. Wouldn't regret a free one :tongue:

It's also nice in bed!
You do go to bed, don't you? ;)

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Quoting: FSE

Quoting: EikeThey could Paint Yoda and Harry already.

Painting Yoda or Harry is IP infringement unless one can prove fair use.

You missunderstood what I tried to say: They can paint Yoda and Harry already, and thus infringe copyright, just like they can with AI. So I see nothing new with regards to Yoda and Harry.

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Quoting: FSE

Quoting: Eikeit's like trying to get rid of photos in the early stages of photography because they're "not art".

Art or not, if you published a photo consisting of a still from Star Wars or a page of a Harry Potter book, then you would likely be infringing IP.

Yes, but I find this unlikely what devs would do. They could Paint Yoda and Harry already.

What devs likely would - and will - do is e.g. generating backgrounds instead of painting them. I've already seen this in point and click announcements. Looks very nice on first sight, on second you see some stuff is wrong. If When AI learns, and doesn't paint some nonsense, well, that's easily done and looks nice. And shouldn't infringe anything.

And no, it's not what I want, I want to feel human's sweat on my monitor.

There will be games labeled "made without AI", and, as always, there will be miss-labeling.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: hardpenguinYes, this is good. Gotta get rid of the AI generated images (it is difficult to call it art).

It's obvious that this will not happen, right?

I do understand - and share - such feelings, but in the end, it's like trying to get rid of photos in the early stages of photography because they're "not art".

no sorry it's not like that... sometimes (not always tho) AI just takes some art and slightly morphs it.

Did you actually try image making AI? I gave it an attempt, and while of course I don't know all the art out there, I'm confident this wasn't just something slightly morphed.

*edit* I'm just too easy to distract sometimes. :D "They're not art" in my comment obviously points to "photos".

In the end, it doesn't matter if you consider AI work art or copying or something in between. Neither did it matter if you called photography a mere copy of a moment in reality eons ago. It's a way to produce something that's sometimes nice to look at and sometimes not (which is also true for photos and drawings), and which will be used.

What I would hope for is that people get to know if something is AI generated.

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