Quoting: SeeKIf this were a situation in which we could harmlessly ignore these people, that would be great. The problem is that these trolls are infiltrating the system and sabotaging our very ability to communicate respectfully with developers and amongst ourselves where they operate.

Remember, Microsoft pays people to crash Linux conventions for a reason.

"Don't feed the trolls" has NEVER worked, even back on USENET.

It's even less effective when what the "trolls" want is your silence.

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Being a mod is a pretty thankless job, and even if you do everything right you're still going to catch crap from people, accusations of being power-hungry and abusive, etc. Especially on larger forums where there's more moderation to do.

What I'm seeing here seems to be a case of mods taking somewhat too hard a line in the face of a lot of volume. Like Liam, I can see people just posting "+1" as inadvertently spamming, not worth a ban unless they push it but certainly worth removing those messages. A dozen people posting just that (and quoting each other) does make a forum hard to read, and a mod's job is to keep the forum easy to read. Same for people appending +1 to the end of their statements in solidarity and protest, that's easy to see as a pointed attack on the moderators rather than just support for a port. Similarly, diverging into discussion about the moderation itself is basically derailing, and I can see off-topic stuff that's not directly about porting being removed. That stuff belongs in its own thread, not clogging up the works.

Getting caught up in stuff like that and having an adversarial relationship with the mods is what the trolls want most. It benefits them, having the pro-Linux people on the mods' bad side. Continuing to needle them is a bad approach.

That said, it does seem like the mods went overboard, which is pretty easy to do. And yes, they're not as strict on the anti-Linux trolls as they should be. It's questionable whether they're selectively deleting as part of an anti-Linux conspiracy, and trying to disrupt the idea of consensus though, that seems to be a bit of a stretch. What's been presented here isn't nearly enough to support that theory.

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Guess I'll finally be getting Stardew Valley. Looking forward to that.

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"Feel free to kill people out of towns and claims."

Oh, didn't notice that right off. Pass.

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A shooter starring a scientist? It'll never sell.

Welcome back to regular duty!

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Wait, who's doing the livestream now? Samsai or the bear?

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I've been interested in this game for ages now, but like Picoboom, I think I'll keep waiting until it's actually done. Maybe by that time Planet Nomads will swoop in to scratch that itch instead, who knows?

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This seems a bit closer to my strike zone than the PvP-heavy offerings we've been getting so far. It certainly looks a lot better than the disappointing RPG MO, which also went for a similar Ultima/early Runescape look.

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I'm with Beamboom on this, I'd love for there to be more and better PvE MMO experiences for Linux. I'm one of those people who actually reads quests in WoW or whatever, thinks lore is more interesting than gear, and likes the idea of a world full of actual people doing things just like me, and grouping up for stuff like dungeons or particularly tough monsters. I love auction houses and guild halls and local chats that I mostly ignore but that exist independently of my actions. I love exploring a world and having someone going about their own mission give me a wave or some other emote just to show we're both having fun.

Not to say I don't think there's a place for mainly PvP MMOs like this one. It's just really not for me, and there's really zero good options on Linux for the stuff that actually does draw me to MMOs.

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I seriously can't wait for Defender's Quest 2 to come out, he's been teasing it for a long time now.

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