Quoting: recioalex

Quoting: tuubiI don't see an update on GOG yet, but I guess it'll be there soon. I'm only getting started with the game, but I'm looking forward to the drones already. I'm not a big fan of micromanagement.

The update is also in GOG.

Thanks for the heads up! A bit too hot to sit in front of the computer right now, but I'll check it out tonight. :)

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Quoting: slaapliedjeI am still waiting for the Adventure II to be released for the actual Atari 8-bit computers. It looks amazing. I have been thinking recently of getting an Atari 5200 just to play it.

This looks fun too, but more 16bit than 8.

They're clearly going more for the 8-bit NES / Sega Master System style than anything western. Looks (and sounds) much closer to that target than what stuff looked like on Super Nintendo, Megadrive or the Amiga. But I gather you might have been in the Atari ST camp in the 16-bit era. :)

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I don't see an update on GOG yet, but I guess it'll be there soon. I'm only getting started with the game, but I'm looking forward to the drones already. I'm not a big fan of micromanagement.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: EikeIt's not like they have a big choice. Starve on itch.io or pay for Steam.

Sad but true.

... and I'm part of the problem. :-/

I don't even use the games I got free from GoG, as they don't integrate well into my favorite launcher, Steam. Is there a clean way to launch Steam games (including DRM'ed ones) from a different launcher?

I haven't tried it, but this command should work: steam steam://run/<appid>

You need to be logged in to steam of course, so I don't know if adding another launcher helps you in any way.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: tuubiYes. It is a huge cut, almost unfair. Of course it's not only access to the storefront, but the download servers and bandwidth as well. In any case, it's apparently what developers are willing to pay to get their games into these stores.

It's not like they have a big choice. Starve on itch.io or pay for Steam.

Sad but true.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: tuubiDo you have a problem with that figure, or are you just annoyed about now knowing for sure?

Where I'm coming from is the discussion with F.Ultra, who based his/her argument on the claim that the agreements of publishers/developers with Valve were all open. The share is an example that they're not fully open.

That's true. They're not fully open. Nothing exceptional there.

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: tuubiSome developers have hinted or outright said it's (about) 30%, but don't expect them to publish their agreements. Why would they? That's a contract between two companies. There's no requirement these deals need to be in the open or even that Valve's cut should be equal in all contracts. It's very likely bigger publishers with enough clout can negotiate a better deal, but a 30% royalty seems very believable for the rest of them.

Why would they publish it? If you've got one strong part - Valve - and many weaker ones - most develeopers and publishers -, it's IMHO in the interest of the smaller ones to share information. It might strengthen their position.

Developers might very well discuss these things with each other, I wouldn't know.

Quoting: EikeAnd I'm curious personally. 30% sound realistic, but I find it quote a big share compared to what Valve (or Apple, Google, ...) is doing.

Yes. It is a huge cut, almost unfair. Of course it's not only access to the storefront, but the download servers and bandwidth as well. In any case, it's apparently what developers are willing to pay to get their games into these stores.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: F.UltraWhich is why I included the fact that all agreements you have to sign with Valve in order to publish on Steam is public in my previous post.

What's the share Valve takes off the Steam price?

Paradox claims that it's 30% in their Annual Reports which match what others have said the cut is. Seams to be a magic number since that is what Google/Apple et al also seams to take in their stores.

If we've got full access to all agreements you have to sign with Valve in order to publish on Steam, shouldn't we have that information first-hand?

What I'm getting at: It seems we don't have that full access. And I wonder if they're under NDA, because it's not like a lot of game makers are telling us clearly what the share is.

Some developers have hinted or outright said it's (about) 30%, but don't expect them to publish their agreements. Why would they? That's a contract between two companies. There's no requirement these deals need to be in the open or even that Valve's cut should be equal in all contracts. It's very likely bigger publishers with enough clout can negotiate a better deal, but a 30% royalty seems very believable for the rest of them.

Do you have a problem with that figure, or are you just annoyed about now knowing for sure?

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Quoting: YesmanI'm on Ubuntu 18.04 and the launch option you posted doesn't appear to work for me either so maybe the issue isn't completely resolved on Debian based distributions.

I think the problems on 18.04 might be a different issue. People have had trouble launching the game on Nvidia as well. Check this forum thread. I'd reinstall and test on Nvidia but downloading >30 gigs for a quick test is just too much.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyA game called TUNG that twists your brain. So it's a . . . TUNG twister.

Ok, that's it. Henceforth you shall be known as Punny Library Guy.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: GuestHow could you leave out oddworld in that list? how could you? :(

Unsure how it is now, but last time I tried gamepad support on Linux was awful which ends up being a deal-breaker for me in such games. They did numerous updates to it though, so it's likely improved but didn't have time to test.

I had the same problem the first time I tried, but I gave it another go and completed the game around Christmas last year. I don't recall having trouble with the controls this time. Fun platformer, if you can handle a bit of trial and error. Well worth the sale price.

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