Quoting: ElectricPrismI picked up Session (the skateboard game) (but not at this sale) ... and unfortunately hated it.

It had too strong angsty juvenile vibes and I didn't care for the quality of the modeling or the controls.

Well here's [External Link] a decidedly non-angsty skateboard game for you. :grin:

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I did look at Descenders (again), and it still looks fun, but I really don't need more games right now. Gotta work on that backlog.

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Quoting: tuubiThere's one question I'd like answered by people against console emulation: How do you feel about people running Windows software on Wine/Proton? How and why is it any different, ethically or legally? How much am I allowed to deviate from the intended target platform until I'm hurting some corporation's feelings?

"Wine Is Not an Emulator".

Hah! Somehow I knew you'd cite this. I don't see how that bears any legal or ethical relevance. You're still running a game on an unsupported operating system, using software other than what the game was made for, and possibly even on a different hardware platform. What difference does it make if the game was originally made for Windows or for the Switch?

Quoting: poiuzAnd I don't think you violate any licenses. You can download & run the unmodified binaries from the official sources. Just as Nintendo, a developer can take (legal) actions if they have concerns about the usage (e.g. Roblox).

So you don't have anything against emulators as long as users run their games from the original media?

I think I saw Roblox mentioned in the title of a GOL article, so I'm guessing it's a game. But what sort of "concerns about the usage" of some Mario game should Nintendo have if someone wants to run it on a PC in the privacy of their own home? Or maybe you mean they might be concerned about the existence of software that makes it possible?

Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: tuubiIt's not. A car maker can't tell you where or how you are allowed to drive their product. Traffic laws and driving permits are irrelevant to the discussion, as they have a very different scope and purpose. Emulating a game does not endanger public safety.

It is. The car maker is not part of the analogy. The analogy is about rules & that just the means is not enough of a justification. You need a permit to drive in public streets.

The developer is the car maker. I'm simply trying to explain why this analogy does not work. There's no equivalence, because driving in traffic without a permit is clearly illegal. Emulating a game is not, to my knowledge.

Quoting: poiuzYou don't own the software you buy & are bound by its license. Both is regulated by law.

Whether the license is valid or not is not of importance since it's not your decision. You can only initialize a review.

That's probably true in your average corporate dystopia. In the slightly less dystopic environment I happen to reside in, I am free to ignore license terms if they conflict with laws and regulations. An agreement or contract is binding only as far as it is legal. For example, it's safe to disregard the fairly common EULA clause prohibiting personal backups if you live in the EU. I think it's actually considered "fair use" even in the (considerably more corporate) US. It's not my decision, but neither is it the licensor's. I don't have to sue to exercise my rights as a consumer.

Here's a couple [External Link] of sources [External Link] that seem to support my points. There are probably better sources, but it's late and these are what DDG picked for me.

Whether you actually own a game you paid for is neither here nor there, because you're not sharing unauthorized copies or whatever if all you do is play them on different hardware. Seems like you're still arguing against piracy, not emulation.

Quoting: tuubiBut as I said: Ignore the analogy, it's not important.

You don't get to write a paragraph in support of a weak analogy and then tell others to ignore it. You walk away first! :grin:

Just a short disclaimer here at the end, just to show my lack of skin in the game: I have never owned any consoles or console games, Nintendo or otherwise. I am an occasionally vocal proponent of strong consumer protections and free software, but other than that, my interest in this topic is largely academic.

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There's one question I'd like answered by people against console emulation: How do you feel about people running Windows software on Wine/Proton? How and why is it any different, ethically or legally? How much am I allowed to deviate from the intended target platform until I'm hurting some corporation's feelings?

Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: tuubiThis is a pretty bad analogy. You don't need a permit to drive your car or comply with traffic laws on your own private land.

No, I think it's still ok.

It's not. A car maker can't tell you where or how you are allowed to drive their product. Traffic laws and driving permits are irrelevant to the discussion, as they have a very different scope and purpose. Emulating a game does not endanger public safety.

A car has never been a good analogy for digital goods, no matter what a certain doofus wanted you to believe twenty years ago.

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Quoting: poiuzJust because you own a car doesn't give you the right to drive it (anyway you want). You still need a permit & must comply with the rules.

This is a pretty bad analogy. You don't need a permit to drive your car or comply with traffic laws on your own private land.

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Quoting: GroganI hope this gets merged with DXVK (seems cooperative)

https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/pull/3411 [External Link]

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Quoting: Kiwii

Quoting: Liam DaweAFAIK, you can only map them using their software which of course isn't on Linux.

You can map them with the smartphone app.

And if your on Linux and dont have a smartphone???......

Well..

How to run Android Apps in Linux without an Emulator [External Link]

The app didn't detect my 8BitDo gamepads on my Sailfish OS phone with its Alien Dalvik Android emulation. I suppose it might work on Waydroid though.

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Quoting: hardpenguinLove 8BitDo products, I can recommend GameSir as well!

Really? I kind of always had issues with using my sn30+ on anything Linux. Both on retropie and my desktop, they tended to not reconnect correctly. Finding modes where all buttons would get recognized was also hit and miss for me.

I had the reconnection problem with one cheapo USB BT dongle, but switching to another brand fixed it. There were also a couple of firmware updates that made it less fiddly, but those were mostly for the Switch mode. For maximum compatibility, you'll never want to switch out of XInput mode in any case, unless you need the gyro.

I've been really happy with the SN30 Pro+ and even more so with the Pro 2.

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Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: IronownerSilly question. I would love to try, but is rpgmaker allowed? There's still JavaScript coding there...:huh:

Admittedly I don't keep up with RPG Maker, but the Game Jam's fourth rule is that your game must have a Linux build, and I'm not aware of any version of the tool that outputs those. :dizzy:

Yeah. it had a native client for some time. Works like a charm too. At least for me.

The rules explicitly allow any engine that can produce a native Linux build, so you should be good to go as long as you fulfil that requirement.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: GroganI've never had a stupid game that made me do any kind of challenge/response with booklet text, though I've heard of it.

I think Monkey Island did that.

Monkey Island 1 and 2 had fancy cardboard dials or wheels. Or at least the Amiga versions did. A bunch of early Sierra adventures had stuff you needed to find in the manual. And of course plenty of C64 games had something like a colour code grid on the cassette inlay card. Things like these were pretty common throughout the eighties and early nineties.

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