Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: kit89

Quoting: elmapulsnip

Best not attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Now there's a quote worth saving for the future. Love it!

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Yeah, it's a pretty old saying. Probably applicable in this case IMO, but in general overused--there is more malice in the world than this saying wants to allow.

Fair enough.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: kit89

Quoting: elmapulsnip

Best not attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Now there's a quote worth saving for the future. Love it!

Hanlon's Razor [External Link]

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Quoting: TheRiddickGiven that feral games get removed off steam once license expires... I wouldn't be buying from them anyway.

Only from the store, obviously. Doesn't affect existing owners.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: EikeThese are my numbers:
VERIFIED: 12 games (3.41%)
PLAYABLE: 8 games (2.27%)
UNSUPPORTED: 1 games (0.28%) (That's Insurgency.)
UNKNOWN: 331 games (94.03%)

UNSUPPORTED += 1: Half-Life: Alyx

A VR-only game isn't supported on the Deck? Inconceivable!

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Quoting: SolitaryThey claim they added Linux support (but it means using Proton), so the wording and the actual support are little bit questionable. SteamDB shows that the game has Linux support, and the Windows build depot shows both windows and linux as target platform, which is something I haven't seen yet. But it is unclear what is actually supported and mostly what kind of support it implies.

I suppose it implies the same level of support they offer their non-Linux customers. For many developers, that doesn't amount to much, but at least they won't be able to reject your support request for not playing on a supported platform. And we should be able to expect them (or their testers) to at least launch new versions of the game on Linux/Proton as part of their QA process.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: 1xokWith Insurgency being unsupported. Shame.

What's the matter with Insurgency?
I started it up, it's native... what is not working?

Default settings work on the Steam Deck's hardware? Fully playable with a controller?

I'm sure there are plenty of games that support Linux just fine, but aren't playable on the Deck out of the box for some reason.

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Quoting: officernice

Quoting: melkemindKind of funny to see Rocket League on there when it's no longer even available for sale. Valve is definitely "being the bigger man" in their conflict with Epic.

If there is one. They seem to have worked well together for the EAC issue. I am still amazed that Valve gave me a refund for Rocket League after Linux support was dropped. I had over 400 hours in it.

I think I was closer to 550 hours. And still I feel the refund was completely justified.

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Quoting: prosoorNo this is not "Gaming on Linux". This is gaming in Windows emulator, that runs on Linux.
So I could play PSX or Amiga games and say it's "gaming on Linux".
No.
Gaming on Linux is when a game runs on Linux.

Hey I get your frustration, I stick to native games as well, but you might want to take a look at GOL's posting rules before you run further afoul of them:

- Talking about zealotry, we are Gaming On Linux and not "Gaming on Linux only native titles or GTFO". If you be a nuisance when talking about Steam Play / Proton, DOSBox, Wine, Cloud Gaming, Emulation and so on, we will give warnings and take further action if needed. Allow people to enjoy what they want, don't be a gate keeper. We don't need constant comments about how you won't buy a game if it's not native, as just one example.

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Quoting: Beamboom

Quoting: EikeI think it was meant to mean X is working better with Proton on Linux than natively on Windows.

That's what I initially thought too - but if you read carefully that's not what they say, and reiterate.

Quoting: tuubiIt's about DXVK and VKD3D, which can be used on Windows as well to translate from Direct3D to Vulkan. They're not tied to Proton or Wine.

How do you make that work within Steam on Windows? Startup parameters?

I think you just need to drop the correct DLLs from DXVK next to the game's executable to override the system provided D3D libraries, but check out Mar2ck's post above. Apparently there are game-specific tools to make this easier.

Honestly, I've done my best to avoid anything to do with Windows for the last 20+ years, so I'm not the best person to answer this question. :whistle:

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Beamboom

Quoting: Purple Library GuyProton actually worked better on Windows than the native Windows version on Windows, due to Vulkan not triggering certain NVidia driver malfunctions.

I still don't understand any of this :huh:... Is this a meme I am not aware of? An internal joke?

There's no Proton for Windows? There's no Wine for Windows? You can't run Steam Play on Windows at all?

I think it was meant to mean X is working better with Proton on Linux than natively on Windows.

It's about DXVK and VKD3D, which can be used on Windows as well to translate from Direct3D to Vulkan. They're not tied to Proton or Wine.

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