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Quoting: Purple Library Guy2) No. I don't use or like the Gnome shell, so I don't care what they do with it.

Well according to this article the vast majority using Ubuntu and that's basically means gnome + Fedora which is gnome too, so Canonical helping to improve what's de facto is a standard now.

What do you use?

In case you're interested, GNOME is the second most popular DE among GOL users after KDE Plasma. I'm partial to Xfce myself.

In case you're interested, not everyone who uses Linux are into gaming stuff

No need to get defensive. I genuinely thought you might be interested.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy2) No. I don't use or like the Gnome shell, so I don't care what they do with it.

Well according to this article the vast majority using Ubuntu and that's basically means gnome + Fedora which is gnome too, so Canonical helping to improve what's de facto is a standard now.

What do you use?

In case you're interested, GNOME is the second most popular DE among GOL users after KDE Plasma. I'm partial to Xfce myself.

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Quoting: elmapuleven linus torvalds himself complain that you have to make an binary for each distro and for each version of that distro, or things may just broke, he said something like that then praised the appimage initiative.

If we're talking about games (as I suppose we should on GOL), trying to support every single distro is pointless. Just support the latest stable or LTS release of whatever distribution most of your target audience games on, bundle your libraries (or target a runtime) and let users of other distros figure it out as needed. Or you can package with appimage, I guess, in case you're not on Steam/Itch/GOG.

Call the diversity of the Linux ecosystem a problem if you want, but I'd argue that the pros outweigh the cons. Choose a common distro if you don't want to spend too much time fiddling with your system. That's what I do these days.

Quoting: elmapulnow... if someone can tell me how to install open mortal on a debian based distro in 2020, i would be grateful.
the game sucks, but not being able to install an linux software on linux, having to install the windows version of it on wine shows that we are not in a position to complain about android/chromeOS being incompatible.

There's plenty of old Windows / Mac software that won't install on modern versions of these operating systems too. That's not a Linux problem. Sometimes it's necessary to break compatibility if you don't want to stifle innovation. Or in some cases, if you want to build more walls around your garden I suppose. Web software isn't completely safe from this either.

At least open source stuff can be updated, if there's interest. Apparently there's not enough interest in Open Combat.

ChromeOS/Android not being standard Linux distributions is a completely separate issue, if it is indeed an issue. I'll just avoid both Android and ChromeOS, thank you very much.

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Quoting: elmapuli dont know what they are doing but i dont like the trend here, looks like an walled garden.

What else should we expect from Google?

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Quoting: WorMzyDon't chromebooks use ARM processors?

Apparently not all of them.

Quoting: Liam DaweChromebooks are steadily getting more powerful too, as they bring in newer generation Intel processors that can handle a bit of a load and it appears AMD Ryzen Chromebooks will also enter the scene soon.

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I stopped using Paypal (because I just don't trust them), but Liberapay has worked fine for me. No fancy supporter badge due to it being completely anonymous, but I can live with that. :happy:

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Quoting: Alm888Or, better yet, skip it entirely and move on.

If you are going to do that for games you really want to play then you might as well skip gaming as a whole.

Are you saying it's not worth having any fun at all if you can't have all the fun? Should I also stop gaming because there are console exclusives I'd be interested in playing, but don't feel like buying a console is worth it? Not like anyone has the time (or cash) to play absolutely everything they want to play anyway. As evidenced by my Steam wishlist that's currently at >180 Linux games, even though my backlog just keeps growing.

I don't feel like taking part in the speculation on how buying Windows games to play on Proton affects the growth of Linux as a gaming platform, but that comment of yours just bugged the hell out of me.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI use GUIs. If I wanted to fiddle with command lines, instead of Mint I'd use Debian or Arch or, I dunno, does Slackware still exist?
Not that there's anything wrong with the command line. It's powerful, useful for those it's useful for, and I'm glad it's there. But probably anyone for whom the length of the command is the main feature shouldn't actually be using it.

Ok, if you use GUI, how on earth you'll add flatpak repository without terminal(because it's same as PPA, but sandboxed)?

I don't know. How do you add a snap repository? Oh right, you can't.

For now, most people who only use a GUI will be happy with the selection on flathub. And if they actually need a different repo, they can copy-paste a line from the web just like they might do for a PPA, until their distro adds a GUI for this.

Quoting: SchattenspiegelAs much as I enjoy most of Alan Pope's interviews here he is speaking as 'Developer Advocate, Canonical', so we should probably take it with a grain of salt, don't you think? The funny thing about statistics is you can usaually interpret them one way, in the completely opposite direction or as the colour green, if you set your mind to it.

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" [External Link]

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Quoting: DefaultX-od

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: DefaultX-odflatpak install flathub org.libreoffice.LibreOffice

snap install libreoffice

who would win?

Are you saying that because the command line for installing a snap package is shorter, it's a better system?

If you are then I guess "apt install libreoffice" is still the winner by one whole character.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you will not have fully functional LO when installing like this "apt install libreoffice"

It's a metapackage that brings in all the base components of LibreOffice and recommends a bunch of additional packages as well. So yeah, you do get a fully functional LibreOffice with that command.

But that wasn't my point. I was trying to underline how trivial I thought the whole argument was. It's not like I'll be installing flatpaks/snaps all day long.

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Quoting: DefaultX-odflatpak install flathub org.libreoffice.LibreOffice

snap install libreoffice

who would win?

Are you saying that because the command line for installing a snap package is shorter, it's a better system?

If you are then I guess "apt install libreoffice" is still the winner by one whole character.

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