Quoting: MarlockSome Yoga models had a bad screen hinge system which made it not stay in place when used as a normal laptop... and most of them had horrible cpu and gpu power, because they were from before the AMD Ryzen tier of efficiency...

what else made it horrible back then that isn't better/solved now?

pretty much all of that:

1- hinge - terrible. Would creak and make weird noises, not stay where I wanted it to, hinges would get stuck in certain positions and refuse to close properly, which led to ....

2- lots of power problems. sometimes (often) the laptop wouldn't sleep properly? So for instance I'd go to bed with it near full power, shut the lid, wake up the next morning expecting to do work (I was at a location working on a show) and it was dead with zero battery for no reason.

3- AGONIZINGLY HORRIFYING performance. I mean ........... I would try to open spotify to put some music on in the background while I worked, and the entire laptop would just grind to a halt. Forced hard reboot would fix it but now I'd have 50% battery for no reason and now need to go find a plug omg

4- In my free time while deployed on work assignments I like to do some casual gaming. IMPOSSIBLE. The performance of this machine was worse somehow than the tablet I lugged around from MANY years prior. I wound up just 100% totally giving up on any idea of gaming on this yoga laptop, which was quite upsetting since that was one of the main ways I decompressed at the end of a stressful day.

I know I am probably making this seem worse than it was, but I have SUCH A HORRIBLE memory of that Yoga laptop, it was literally one of the worst technology experiences I have ever had.

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I had a Yoga foldable laptop once upon a time, long ago. Seemed like a wonderful idea on paper and in concept. In real life it was HORRIBLE. I HATED every minute of it. Actually wound up selling it used after less than a year and going back to a "normal" laptop. These kinds of laptops might be nice for the extreme graphic artist or whatever, but I guarantee for 99% of the market, there's no reason for this.

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Quoting: JarmerThis is so exciting! Been keeping my eye on this forever. I very much look forward to trying it out. Might boot up a live usb later tonight if I have the time. I think we desperately need some new blood in the de space

This is such an amazingly Linux thing to say. Consider--if you use Windows or Mac, you use the single DE that comes with it--not only do you have no choice, the very concept that there could be a choice does not exist. But we Linux users are so spoiled we can be saying "Oh, the bunch of choices we have are getting a bit long in the tooth, it was about time there was a new contender or two!"
Just to be clear, this is a happy thing. :grin:

haha, this is true! I think Apple does a good job with their DE on macs. I use them for work stuff and I can be very efficient and get stuff done quickly. But that's it, just utilitarian work stuff. Windows is such a bloated ad ridden spyware nightmare these days I can't even bring myself to use it, like at all. I used to use it all the time for work stuff, but moved to Macs because of those reasons.

Anyway....!!! I love linux because of the choices we get and the support of the community, and I absolutely love when interesting projects like this Cosmic come to be! yay!

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wooooo new content!!! Love it.

Very much looking forward to playing through the new levels. I need to go through that and Sigil 2. Absolutely loved Sigil 1.

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This is so exciting! Been keeping my eye on this forever. I very much look forward to trying it out. Might boot up a live usb later tonight if I have the time. I think we desperately need some new blood in the de space, and this could be exactly that. I use pop on my living room htpc, so will be interesting to see when that naturally updates over to this.

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I should edit my post lol. From the first reports I was seeing, that seemed the case, but now after reading some other sites like the phoronix one, maybe you're right and they're pretty strong.

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I think we have pretty much the same system Liam, ha! 5800x w/ 6800xt.

Normally I build a new machine every 4 / 5 years, so that time is basically now, but I'm going to wait at LEAST for the next gpu cycle (what is that, mid year next year we think for next radeon generation?) and these cpus are very underwhelming, so very easy to pass on.

Also I wanted to link to the phoronix article on these, a lot of great info there in case you're wondering!

https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-9600x-9700x [External Link]

For myself (and Liam and I'm sure others), this is a good page:
https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-9600x-9700x/16 [External Link]

which lists our processors scoring a 55, and the new 9700x scoring a 90. I know benchmark scores don't mean a ton in real life settings, but still that's a big jump.

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Quoting: CZiNTrPTI'm using Manjaro on my desktop and I'm happy with it? What's so wrong about it that it's usage stats are shrinking?

I was a user for about a year, and quit because despite being a "rolling" distro, they were quite the opposite, at least for me. This was back when KDE was releasing Plasma (I don't remember which version number) that came with a very specific feature I really wanted to use, but Manjaro delayed it by months and months and months for no apparent reason, and no comments or discussion about it. Meanwhile every single other distro already had it. I could have moved to experimental branch but after waiting for what I considered a long time with no updates or communication I had had enough. Moved to Tumbleweed and love it here.

I think the article author on boilingsteam just doesn't see a reason for its existence anymore in 2024. It's not the same insane complicated process to get regular arch up and running that it once used to be. And since regular arch has such a high share, might as well just use that and join in that community which is very large.

If I ever switch off of Tumbleweed, it'll be for Fedora. They also have a large active community that helps so much.

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https://boilingsteam.com/linux-distro-july-2024/ [External Link]

Manjaro seems to be fading away according to those stats. Over the past two years it's lost a ton, and if that continues, in another two years (or less) it'll be totally gone. I know those stats don't represent every single linux gaming computer out there, but still, it's something to go on. I am a direct contributor to those stats though. I used to use manjaro, but didn't like it and switched from it to opensuse and have been very happy ever since.

BoilingSteam specifically says this about Manjaro:

The one thing I’m confident about is the fact that Manjaro is probably going to fall even further. I just don’t see a reason for it to exist, and it has destroyed its own credibility over and over again.

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today I was listening to my favorite podcast (twit) and they were getting deep into the whole intel thing. It ............. well let's just say .......... it wasn't very good lol. I don't think anyone on the panel had any hope for them at all. They were all comparing intel to kodak. Ouch.

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