I've only run into Denuvo once in the two years since I ditched consoles (prior to that, I had ditched PC-gaming before even the likes of StarForce and SecuROM showed up), when it got added to Capcom's remaster of Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective - a game I was going to buy and revisit, having enjoyed the original Nintendo DS release back in the day. I immediately opted not to buy it, and was left puzzled by why it's been stuck on an up-port of a decade-old DS game, but left off of some modern releases by the same developer.

Quoting: EhvisKinda. My wallet is happy about it.

Same. I suspect that Denuvo's real value is as a money-saving tool! :tongue:

Quoting: BogomipsI will count the hours between the publication of a game implementing it and the cheaters pointing their nose in that same game.

This is the problem, of course - if someone is determined to cheat, they're going to do it anyway, no matter how much effort it involves. Punishing legitimate customers is definitely not the answer to that.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: KohriasThe Roblox developers contributed nothing at all to a Linux version in the first place. And after the grapejuice community figured out how to run the game with wine the Roblox developers actively blocked Linux for no reason.

And if I'm remembering correctly, they never blocked the game-creation tools through which they make their money - just the ability to play the game itself.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: rustybroomhandleHumble Bundle, remember they used to have keys for Steam, their own store and.... Desura. Remember Desura?

Quoting: Liam DaweHard to forget, neither really changed all that much for us though. Humble ports weren't exactly great, and many left broken. Desura also died rather quickly.

Never bought anything there, but I haven't heard Desura mentioned in donkey's years, and yet today I've heard it mentioned three times! :shock: (Twice here, and once while catching up on the GOL YouTube stream marking Proton's 5th anniversary.)

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: pleasereadthemanual

Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualAdobe Suite in Wine would be nice...

I know some folks who are waiting for the Affinity suite to work nicely under Wine, too, so that they can drop MacOS in favour of Linux. Hopefully one day!

Well, on the subject of Affinity Suite, progress is actually pretty good:

• https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/182758-affinity-suite-v204-on-linux-wine/ [External Link]


• https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/166159-affinity-photo-running-on-linux-with-bottles/ [External Link]

I use Affinity sometimes but unfortunately can't replace the Adobe suite fully with it. I also need to use Descript sometimes...

From my understanding, Adobe Suite was previously supported in Wine—Google even paid for a GSoC to maintain that support many years ago. The DRM is the biggest reason it doesn't work anymore. I have a feeling that if they could get the DRM working, CodeWeavers would find it worthwhile to get Adobe Suite working in CrossOver.

ACK! So sorry, I forgot to quote you before! :shock: Many many thanks for this info - I'll pass it along! :grin:

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: omer666To be fair, the Humble Bundle in its early days also made great steps toward Linux gaming by requiring each game in the bundle to be ported to Mac and Linux. Granted it was indie games at the time, but there were also up-and-coming devs like Frozenbyte and Runic games. Another great contribution to Linux gaming was that they published figures on what each platform paid on average for the games, revealing Linux gamers were eager to pay more to support the effort.

Obviously that was nowhere near Valve's contribution, but I have fond memories of those days.

True! Also a most excellent pre-Steam thing! :grin:

I remember the figures being published - they were quite revealing about both Linux and Mac users. I remember this [External Link] being written by a Mac-focussed game-developer around that time too, and to the best of my knowledge it looks like the same behaviours recorded back then still hold true today.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: elmapuldoom was so popular in the past, that there have been an time where more people had doom on their pcs than msdos (or windows?)

Correct - at one time, Doom was more widespread than Windows 95! :shock:

Quoting: elmapulas for linux being as good for emulation as windows, we arent there yet.

For the vast majority of people, it simply is - the popular go-tos, and a lot of obscure stuff, all work as close to perfect as it's ever been.

Quoting: elmapulcomix zone dont work in any emulatores from retroarch, you have to either use some windows exclusive emulator on wine (i forgot the name) or purchase the steam version , but you need an good video card to playing that.

I've just tested it in BlastEm, GenesisPlusGX, and PicoDrive, and it seems to work fine in all of them. I only played the first stage, though, since it's one of my least-favourite games of all time - is there some specific spot where it breaks later on?

Quoting: elmapuland the best emulator for n64 is project64, but its windows only, it might work on wine but come on, its runing an emulator on top of an translation layer, the margin for bugs double.

Personally, I've always had better luck with Mupen64Plus-Next than with Project64. But Nintendo 64 emulation is so poor in general that you're going to have problems no matter what OS you're using - that's not a "Linux isn't there yet" thing, that's just an "N64 is too complicated for its own good" thing. :tongue:

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: Arehandoro5 years already? We gamed so much with Proton that it feels the time just flew by xD

Ain't that the truth! :grin:

Quoting: Liam DaweThis is why I say that Valve and Proton are what forever changed Linux gaming.

I think that people also forget that past knowledge is being put to use with that, too. When Microsoft started pushing games on Windows 95, "Doom95" was a big factor in making the OS be seen as viable for gaming - Gabe Newell led the team for that port, and it appears that data from that time could have influenced the later creation of Steam. From this old article [External Link];

But what was so shocking to me was that Windows was the second highest usage application in the U.S. The number one application was Doom, a shareware program that hadn’t been created by any of the powerhouse software companies. It was a 12-person company in the suburbs of Texas that didn’t even distribute through retail, it distributed through bulletin boards and other pre-Internet mechanisms. To me, that was a lightning bolt. Microsoft was hiring 500-people sales teams and this entire company was 12 people, yet it had created the most widely distributed software in the world. There was a sea change coming.

He wasn't wrong!

Quoting: Liam DaweDon’t even get me started on the people trying to claim things were good pre-Steam 🤣

The best pre-Steam thing that I can point to was the massive progress made on emulation, driven by stuff like the GP2X (an obscure Linux-based Korean handheld with awful controls because the company didn't know the gaming space very well) and similar machines, which ultimately came into its own later when those same emulators got ported to the Raspberry Pi and making emulation-boxes became a hugely popular first project.

Prior to that, people would insist that you needed to install Windows XP for a good emulation experience, whereas today Linux is considered the go-to by just about everybody. But emulation is understandably niche, so it was never going to drive Linux gaming adoption alone. :tongue:

Quoting: sonic2kkI think this is a much overlooked aspect of Proton, as I'm sure I'm not the only person who bought an order of magnitude more games on Steam thanks to Proton.

Oh yes, absolutely this. I've also stepped out of my comfort-zone and tried a lot of new things as a result, too - often with nudges from very cheap mystery-bundles from Fanatical, since my Steam account's only a couple of years old and it's been a great way to catch up on a lot of stuff for not much outlay.

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualAdobe Suite in Wine would be nice...

I know some folks who are waiting for the Affinity suite to work nicely under Wine, too, so that they can drop MacOS in favour of Linux. Hopefully one day!

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Proton lets me play the modern Bomberman games on Linux, and therefore it is Pengling Approved. :grin:

Seriously, though, after I left consoles behind just shy of two years ago Proton has opened up a whole new world of content on the OS that I was already using for the last 16 years. Until then, I didn't even know it existed, or even that there was a Linux version of Steam (I was only super-distantly aware of the Steam Machines, and misunderstood the reason for their failure - I had perceived it as being due to redundancy, since consoles and self-built PCs already did that job). In those two years alone I've seen things go from "This Proton thing is like magic!" to "Steam Deck is coming soon" to "Oh look, a new Windows release runs better on Linux at launch than on Windows" to, most recently, "Cool! Devs are now making Linux-specific fixes even without native builds!".

Valve is playing a very long game here, and I'm very interested in seeing where it goes next. :smile: Thanks to all involved in making things what they are right now!

View this comment - View article - View full comments

Quoting: neolithFor SEGA it's at least somewhat justifyable as that is an abbreviation for "Service Games". Also their logo has always been written in capitals.

Yeah, I know - I was just using that as an example of how I learned about that particular PR practise. :wink: (Though, really, shouldn't it be intercapped as "SeGa", since it's a contraction? :tongue:)

View this comment - View article - View full comments