That one was unexpected. And is very welcome indeed. Thinking about it - it's fascinating what possibilities this opens to several projects (and porting engines) if we can get a native HLSL compiler in Linux.

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Those guys start to impress me on the rate they're finding and fixing critical bugs. That open driver thingy AMD is doing really starts to pay off for us users, the transparency is great and I have real high hope the drivers will be good enough for general use soon to switch from NVidia to AMD.

I'm eyeballing with AMD for a single reason. There is still no solution for NVidia for Wayland. And I'd love to start testing Wayland.

Is there a low/mid budget card someone could recommend for testing purposes with the amdgpu driver? I'm thinking on something like the RX460 which should be somewhat comparable to my 1050Ti.

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Quoting: amckinnonI am curious, has anyone ever done a gaming benchmark between ARCH, RPM and DEB distributions? It would be interesting to see which provides the best performance.

There isn't much difference between distributions since they all base on the same software. With newer graphics drivers you sometimes see different performance on some cards, or with a newer Mesa-Stack you'll see a lot of improvements to radeon and intel performance.

The overhead for gaming a distro provides is rather small. What can make a difference is the window manager, especially if games do not flag their application appropriately so that the window manager isn't bypassed for the game execution.

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It looks so great already. Can't wait...

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Well, Linux support is always the first "feature" dropped, since it's a relatively small userbase to upset.

I never kickstart projects anymore, I just help funding if there is a working alpha/beta build out, or if it's a developer I do trust to deliver (Obsidian, inXile).

Obsidian even made it happen and told that the port has not been profitable. And they're about to do a port for their next game as well... nice of them :-).

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Quoting: lelouch

Quoting: natewardawgManjaro. It blends stability with bleeding edge, doesn't break as often as the more pure Arch(s)

I don't like this false claim that "pure Arch(s)" break more often - or even ever break. It's just not true!

Maybe users still remember GTK2/3 applications crashing due to the Qt theming engines platform plugin once Qt 5.7 was released in Arch.

This is NOT a system crash, but it's still unfortunate enough for users.

Manjaro held the packages and updates back several weeks until there was a solution / fix for this. Arch / Antergos released them, and users had issues.

Nothing wrong with Arch though, somebody needs to test things, and distros like Manjaro can perfectly well judge updates just looking at Arch and how they deal with the issues (since they usually find solutions pretty fast) ;-). That's the risk of being really bleeding edge vs the release system Manjaro uses.

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Quoting: omer666That's exactly what I liked about Arch, but after so many years running it, life has become more cluttered and I didn't have time to troubleshoot it any longer.

That exactly. This was the reason for me too not choosing Arch this time but Manjaro when I moved away from *Ubuntu back to my beloved arch-like system.

You have a well tested system, are still quite bleeding edge, and if you hit the shit pile anyawy, there is Arch Wiki (which is a GREAT source of information) and forums, you'll find a lot of great solutions there.

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Quoting: knotted10I'd so delighted on trying Manjaro (XFCE) I think that is the most balanced distro over there. But for me, there's only an issue, I owe a gaming laptop which is not able to boot into manjaro's usb live media. I had to throw everything and go back to mint and screentearing (optimus sucks)

Ye, optimus sucks, and Manjaro currently has a few issues with mhwd as well regarding to Optimus, seems there are no devs with optimus hardware to do the proper testing. For me it worked choosing the non-free option, which even enables the nvidia driver during the boot time.

I'd suggest you try it again once Manjaro 17 is released. They finally are switching to Kernel 4.9 LTS for their install images, which solves a lot of issues booting the install image on several NVidia hardware compared to the released ISO with 4.4 for a variety of NVidia users.

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Welcome to the Arch Universe, so to say.

I'm quite some time on Manjaro now, and I love it so far. Never looked back, though, I've been eyeballing with Antergos as well, but I prefer the way Manjaro updates their stable, every few weeks a fully tested update with their main desktops (KDE, XFCE), only dropping security patches if necessary between those updates every few weeks (as lately the flash update).

Antergos for me does not even boot in the live ISO, not on my laptop, not on my PC and not in Virtualbox. This quite killed every testing scenario I could have had (just even tested with the current ISO), which back the days killed it as an option when I was choosing a new system. And still would :D.

And ye, others are right, make sure you know what you install from AUR. Check the comments, and check scripts and download source. I've had arch since back in 2003 (with a bit of a break using KUbuntu), and never came across a malicious package - but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen.

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Quoting: Zlopez...
but I didn't make it work with proprietary Nvidia driver.

You can't in the current state. NVidias Wayland support ist based upon EGLStreams, while window manager developers don't want to implement it. As long as NVidia and the Window Manager developers can't agree on a technical standard, we won't see any wayland support in what-so-ever desktop/window manager.

And that's a statement of Gnome and KDE devs. No idea about Unity / Mir / Ubuntu crap has plans to implement EGLStreams though.

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