Going off the reviews I'm not even stoked for this title anymore really. If they ever release a quality linux port I'll look into buying it to support the effort but otherwise I don't feel inclined to purchase it.

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I'll put this on the wishlist and scoop it up at $10 or less on Steam sale. I probably won't ever play it because I kind of need story motivated progress but if/when I get my steam machine up in the living room I have some family members that would probably love this.

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Quoting: wvstolzingSo they'll inject bugs into the Steam client, which will not only deter people from buying games on the Steam storefront, but also make the individual games they've bought over Steam perform worse?

No, I think what he is trying to say is that Windows will make several quiet changes over time, that are never documented, to the underlying Windows libraries that Steam has to link into for things. Like how Steam has to create a process for launching as well as interaction with the file system and updating registry keys.

For instance there might be more bug reports like this:
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/558750544052889885/ [External Link]

Spoiler, click me

I believe I may have found a "bug" in the Steam Client. Deleting game content doesn't activate Windows' uninstall of that game. I presume it just, you know, deletes the game's content. The issue is that there is a registry key, InstallLocation in LocalMachine\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Steam App 244210 (Assetto Corsa in my case) which remains after Steam has deleted the game files.

Reinstalling the game through steam does _not_ update this key.

If you delete the game content, that registry key remains. Then if you reinstall the game AND CHANGE THE LOCATION OF THE INSTALL, the game gets installed and that key is not updated.

I don't even know if you'd consider this a bug but since I came across it, I figured I might as well report it.

Something like that would be like the strategy that Microsoft has long employed with the OOXML document format they use for microsoft office. Even though Microsoft advertises its OOXML format as an "open" standard they make a lot of undetectable tweaks to their implementation of it so that other office software like libreoffice can't become completely compliant with the format. Hence why many documents made in Microsoft Office will likely never render correctly in libreoffice.

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Hope Yooka-Laylee never makes this list; only game I've ever crowd-funded. Though it'd probably count as my second burn because while I didn't kickstart Legends of Aethereus I did buy early access only to have the game abandoned by the developers after a year. Such a shame with Legends of Aethereus too because I did really enjoy the game immensely up until they ditched it in a buggy and incomplete state.

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I hope this doesn't happen with yooka-laylee. The one game I've kick-started for my steam machine.

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Quoting: KeyrockAs an aside, why compare to Broadwell when Skylake is out?

Dunno, but even Skylake isn't really a relevant point of comparison as Kaby Lake will be out the same time as Zen.

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Quoting: neowiz73

Quoting: MalThat being said: imagine a world where Sony go crazy and open ps to Vulkan. The arguments above would be completely defeated. Many big heads at M$ would immediately arakiri XD

Sony is on the board of promoters for Vulkan and have already stated they will be updating the PS4 for Vulkan. Also the Nintendo NX that is coming out soon is going to have Vulkan support as well. Oh and don't forget Android will be updated for Vulkan support in their next major update, which should be the Android N release this fall.

Can you link to source for Playstation 4 supporting Vulkan? I've only been able to find articles where a game developer is saying the Playstation 4 "should" support Vulkan because it'd be a smart move.

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Quoting: ChloeWolfieGirlIf Vulkan is almost the same as Dx12 how close is vulkan to old versions of DX? dx11, 10 and 9? if they're all close it could mean that older popular games are much more likely to be made for linux.

DX 12 is not like DX 11,DX 10, or DX 9 at all. It's a completely different world for a developer going from DX 11 to DX 12. But that hasn't stopped any developers from showing their enthusiasm for DX 12 coming out with all the benefits the huge departure in change it will bring.

At the very least Vulkan will definitely not become the failure that OpenGL was; there were too many blunders made over the years, too many opportunities missed, and not enough industry support. By the time OpenGL shaped up and really became something significant Direct3D had already become too ubiquitous for OpenGL to hope to fight back.

But now both Vulkan and Direct3D are starting from zero with these brand new API's. Although DirectX 12 got a bit of a head start, Vulkan has much more going for it than OpenGL ever did.

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Quoting: wolfyrionI know is too early to ask about this but some other developers already experimenting with Vulkan and I would like to know if the release of Vulkan was any "game changer" I mean for bringing more games to other OS than Windows?

Also I would love to hear the developer thoughts about Vulkan.

It sounds like the graphics drivers weren't responsible for the difficulties they experienced porting to Linux. The problems are the poor support for linux offered by third party software developers that make tools and plugins that are required for complex functionality in games. Vulkan probably won't alleviate those problems but the situation should hopefully naturally improve over time as linux gains more of a foothold.

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I've been absolutely loving Insurgency and I can't wait to try their new game in 2017. Insta-buy.

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