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Quoting: MohandevirDo you smell it? Could this be the scent of a Steam streaming service? :)

You mean like the one I said Valve would do :P

Never said it was a new idea! I'm just highlighting it. :wink:

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: LeopardTell that to GOG before bashing Steam fam ?

Never saw such kind of issue with GOG, so leave your irrelevant comments out of the thread please.

I get your point... So, to compete with Epic, instead of lowering the 30% cut they take, Valve is betting on better infrastructure and services for developpers... Could it be that?

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Do you smell it? Could this be the scent of a Steam streaming service? :)

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy...Linux in general is healthy as a horse; whether it's servers, cloud (which I still don't quite get the difference between "the cloud" and "a server somewhere I don't happen to know where it is"...

Like they say: "There is no cloud... It's just someone else's computer." ;)

Quoting: Alm888... Look up to the CDPR: they screwed Linux gamers over with "The Withcher III" and got away with it.

The situation was much more complexe than that. Personally I think that a really vocal part of Linux gamers screwed CDPR big time too. I takes two to tango. VP too was responsible for a part of the backlash. Putting the blame solely on CDPR is quite simplistic. I beg to differ.

This said, yeah, I'm a Witcher fanboy, but I'm not going to tell you to buy it. You are entitled to your own decisions. Still, I have the feeling that Linux lost an early supporter that would probably still be on our platform had it not been for the Witcher 2 fiasco and all parties involved are in part to be blamed, imo.

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Quoting: qptain Nemo

Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: scaineI suspect this is a (or another) reason that Steam devices didn't really take off. Playstation and Xbox both allow Netflix, Spotify and others on their consoles. Why would you buy a SteamPC that doesn't support any of that. Pretty ridiculous.

Quoting: dubigrasuGood thing I guess.
I feared at one point that Valve deliberately ignored having Netflix/Amazon/etc apps available on their SteamOS/Steam Machines because they tried to push their own movie store.

Can't people just use the web clients on SteamOS?

Last time I checked, Netflix through web browsers was limited to 720p. There are workarounds, but for the masses, it's a no-go. You need an officially supported Netflix client (or Microsoft Edge) to get the 1080p+ resolution.

Can you link the workarounds, for posterity?

https://www.addictivetips.com/web/watch-netflix-in-1080p-chrome-firefox/ [External Link]

And there is Kodi 18 with Netflix too. It works great:

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=329767 [External Link]
https://github.com/asciidisco/plugin.video.netflix [External Link]

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Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: scaineI suspect this is a (or another) reason that Steam devices didn't really take off. Playstation and Xbox both allow Netflix, Spotify and others on their consoles. Why would you buy a SteamPC that doesn't support any of that. Pretty ridiculous.

Quoting: dubigrasuGood thing I guess.
I feared at one point that Valve deliberately ignored having Netflix/Amazon/etc apps available on their SteamOS/Steam Machines because they tried to push their own movie store.

Can't people just use the web clients on SteamOS?

Last time I checked, Netflix through web browsers was limited to 720p. There are workarounds, but for the masses, it's a no-go. You need an officially supported Netflix client (or Microsoft Edge) to get the 1080p+ resolution.

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Quoting: sub"Valve is getting back to focusing on gaming, with Linux support being retired"

The day will come. :sick:

Mark my words. They'll try some more attempts to push Linux that will fail like the attempts before.
Not least because big part of the game-related media is inherently anti Linux.
And you need those guys!

At some point Valve will give up.

Yes, I hope I'm totally wrong.

The day Valve drops Linux support is the day Microsoft will start pushing it's UWP intiative again. Linux is what prevents Microsoft from doing anything foolish (and/or) radical.

Edit: Valve wants to hire a new SteamOS engineer... Valve gets back to focus on gaming and AMD wants to hire ten new engineers for open source linux driver developments... Could it be all linked, somehow?

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Hiring-10-More-Open-Source [External Link]

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From the SteamOS job posting:

"Working with OEMs throughout the hardware product cycle from design through production and maintenance"

Probably nothing or not what I think it may be, but it raises my hopes for a new wave of Steam Machines...

"Regularly shipping updates to SteamOS"

Yeah... Badly required.

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Quoting: An0nx3nMetro Exodus... Awesome game, using Steam/Proton on Fedora 29.

Sweet!

https://www.protondb.com/app/412020 [External Link]

Waiting for 2020... :)

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Quoting: no_information_here

Quoting: g000h- I don't like to uninstall a game until I've completed it, and now I'm racking up about 40 installed games and practically zero completions.
- A lot of the time, I'm keen to have relatively casual entertainment when gaming, and find that often games are set up to be frustratingly difficult.
- Going somewhat in hand with the previous grievance, I'm irritated by games requiring excessive numbers of controls. Quite often I'm having keyboard fumbles and not able to change weapon or swap mode or whatever. It's not so bad if the game is slow, but if it is a twitch-shooter like Serious Sam, where you need to make key presses as fast as possible, well - Not happy.
- If I leave a game for a while, then I forget the story, where I've got to, and get disinclined to go back into it again. That accounts for about 30 of my 40 installed titles.

This all sounds very familiar! I can't speak for others, but I think getting older makes me less tolerant of frustrating games. Also, I am spoiled for choice so it is very easy just to move on to something else. In the "old days" I would never leave a game unfinished. Fight to the bitter end, even if I wasn't really enjoying it...

Forgetting storylines just means I have to play only 1 or 2 games at at time, until completion (or abandonment). I also have to wait for a solid stretch of time when I can actually play so that my memory doesn't get interrupted.

All of this is the reason why I play the first run of all my games on the easiest setting and then adjust accordingly. I don't have enough play time to waste an hour on a single combat or puzzle that require too much reflexes.

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