Quoting: furaxhornyx

Quoting: scaine

Quoting: furaxhornyxI also find it buggy and clunky as well

Can you be specific? What bugs did you encounter? How is it clunky?[..]

A few things I encountered while trying different distros with various versions of KDE, from the top of my head:

• Error messages on a fresh install (I think it was Kubuntu ?)


• Error messages on the first update after a fresh install (like "missing libraries" or something like this, don't remember exactly what is was)


• I will never understand the "wait for 30 more seconds" when you decide to turn your computer off, and did not find how to change this (at least easily, I admit I didn't bother much)


• I was quite confused by the Settings panel or whatever it is called


• Overall it felt "sluggish" and not as much responsive as Cinnamon (or others I tried, like xfce and mate), even in a VM without hardware acceleration for Cinnamon

The bug that quickly comes to my mind, that I personnally witnessed, since switching to Kubuntu, is always happening after an update... Suddenly I can't turn off or reboot the computer. Everytime I get an error message that... I don't remember the name... just crashed. I have to ALT+F4 + CTRL-ALT-DEL to reboot. Weird, but quite similar to what Windows is doing, also after updates... It's just that the whole desktop gets frozen... The start menu doesn't answer at all... CTRL-ALT-DEL + Reboot. :wink:

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Quoting: MohandevirCouldn't they (Intel, AMD & Nvidia) figure it out together, for once, and come up with one open source standard?

What's nice with AMD FSR it's that it can be used on any game, with Proton. Maybe Intel's and Nvidia's solutions will be integrated to Proton in futur releases, adding lines of code to Proton, on the way, but why 3 standards for the same feature? It'a all open source, why not collaborate? Political considerations?

Probably too idealistic from my part... Sorry, my outsider rant.

That's because NVIDIA is hostile to open source. Their closed source software is how they keep a grip on several markets. They only released this because FSR was gaining developer mindshare. They only open source stuff when the alternative is their competition eating up their lunch.

Intel still hasn't gotten their discrete GPUs to the same point as AMD and NVIDIA but they do contribute to the open source stack on other areas.

I think AMD should continue this strategy of offering 95%-100% of what Nvidia offers but open sourced to force their hand.

The FSR maintainers should have a look at DLSS (Nvidia Image Scaling... Oups!) and see what can be integrated that will boost FSR performances... Isn't it open source, afterall?

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Couldn't they (Intel, AMD & Nvidia... Khronos? Valve?) figure it out together, for once, and come up with one open source standard?

What's nice with AMD FSR it's that it can be used on any game, with Proton. Maybe Intel's and Nvidia's solutions will be integrated to Proton in futur releases, adding lines of code to Proton, on the way, but why 3 standards for the same feature? It'a all open source, why not collaborate? Political considerations?

Probably too idealistic from my part... Sorry, my outsider rant.

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Is there such a thing as a KDE based simplified desktop?

I really do like the look and feel of KDE, but I admit that Gnome's simplified menus is to my liking. Aside from switching wallpapers, I don't really care about customization, but KDE has features that I need and can't find anywhere else... That's another reason why I look forward to SteamOS 3.0.

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Quoting: tuubiI'm pretty sure I'll enjoy this, but I wonder how awkward and fiddly the throwing mechanic gets.

Quoting: MohandevirLooks like CGA to me. :grin:

I see how the pinks and cyans in the palette might remind you of it, but it really doesn't look at all like CGA otherwise.

That's exactly what I was referring to. This and saying loud that I'm more than 40. :grin:
Got fond memories of Commander Keen in CGA.

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Looks like CGA to me. :grin:

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Personnally, I can't say that I have a preference, but like I wrote in another post, all my in-home streaming issues are solved on KDE, with Kubuntu 20.04.3. That's the main reason why I use it.

Since it's KDE based and Kwin is being maintained by at least one guy contracted by Valve, I expect the same to be true, when SteamOS 3.0 will release (which I will absolutely switch to, on my main gaming rig, at least).

Edit:
And I really do think that the Steam Deck success will be a side effect driving factor, for KDE. We might see Windows users switch to SteamOS, on their gaming rig, to reflect what they get on their Steam Deck.

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I don't know what you think about that, but something is telling me that the screen on this setup doesn't run in 4k. Might be wrong... :grin:

Edit1:
Just found a similar screen from the same company:
https://eyoyomall.com/products/eyoyo-small-touchscreen-monitor-10-inch [External Link]

Nope! Doesn't run in 4K. Nice touch screen though, good price.

Edit2:
Mmmm... Connecting that kind of screen to my GTX 1660 Super rig, to be used as a in-home streaming server, for my futur Steam Deck, in native 1280x800... Wow! It would make it a powerhouse!

Edit3:
Judging by the banana scale, it might be the 7" version of the one I linked to.
https://eyoyomall.com/collections/small-lcd-monitor/products/eyoyo-7-inch-monitor-em07h [External Link]

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Or... Wait for Valve to release SteamOS3.0 - Desktop edition and try the challenge anew. :happy:

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Quoting: scaineI use multi-monitor Windows at my work and while you're probably not exaggerating your frustration at the Linux situation, I think you're painting a far rosier picture of Windows multi-monitor support than I experience. Windows frequently open on the wrong monitor. My biggest annoyance is having my windows on the big monitor, unplugging for a meeting, and discovering that one or two of the windows are simply gone. I can see them on the taskbar, but they're obviously still on some invisible second monitor that doesn't exist now. Only option is to kill them and re-open.

When you plug that second monitor back in too - nothing moves back to where it should be. This is a pain on Linux too, even if you fix all the other multi-monitor woes there... but apparently KDE has some functionality coming down the line that will address this. I hate having to drag four windows back to the big screen every time I sit back down at my desk.

Scaling is quirky too, given that my external monitor at work is 4K, but the laptop screen is 1080p. And don't get me started on the screen tear on the 4K monitor.

I guess multi-monitor is hard, because I've never had a very positive experience of it, on any O/S. I avoid it whenever I can.

Being a mechanical designer on a multi-monitor CAD workstation, I have a similar experience. I even had weird issues where the second monitor wouldn't be detected. Had to do the hard reset trick (reboot twice during startup, with the power switch) to return Windows' display settings to factory default and reconfigure from scratch. It seems that it's better than Linux, but Windows is not a multi-monitor paradise either, in my experience.

Edit: On Windows, once you get the setup right, don't blow too hard on it, it's going to crumble. :grin:

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