1/2 Offtopic: When it comes to reverse engineering via decompilation,
there is another imho very interesting project dealing wiht Magic Carpet 1 and 2.

I opened a forum thread some weeks ago.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/4922

Magic Carpet is such a great game that I'd like to revisit with a
pumped up reverse-engineered engine (like DevilutionX for Diablo 1).

One of the latest milestones reached mentions a working Linux build target.
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to compile it due to some strange SDL dependencies
that I wasn't able to resolve with the common approach of installing the dev packages.
They currently only ship Windows builds as binaries.

If anyone manages to build and test it, please post short feedback on the state of that project.
Would be very appreciated. Thanks! :)

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They managed to attract other world class engineers as well a while ago already like Tom Forsyth.
VERY promising.

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Valve Quest?

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I wonder if a perfectly conformant OpenGL layer would actually lead to troubles with old software - as in particular games were written with quirks for the crappy drivers back then.

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Quoting: BubailamaYes the development takes long. But to defend them, they are a small independent studio from Berlin/Germany that have their office in the so called "Saftladen". The "Saftladen" is an office community with several different small independent game studios.

Isn't this just *ONE guy?

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: scaineJust being Nvidia-only is good enough for me to fully get behind FSR. And the AMD showcase video for it was pretty impressive given how young the technology is (dunno what user "sub" was talking about above, claiming that FSR doesn't look as good - not only is there barely any difference, the whole point of these technologies is that they won't look as good, but you'll get 100%+ FPS out of them at high-res, and if you can only tell the difference in a side-by-side video, then that's clear "good enough").

I'm a strong AMD supporter and I absolutely hate the politics of Nvidia exploiting vendor-lockins.

Let's see how this does when it ships. I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong here,
as the open approach across vendors is the way to go, imho.

Yep, I'm with you. I was just surprised you found FSR to be poor quality. I was watching that video and thinking, holy cow, I can't tell the difference, but the framerates are 60%+ better! And the way you can choose quality or framerates, very nice. I hope it succeeds.

We'll see. I indeed find the tech demo rather washed out (compared to DLSS 2.0 tech demos I saw).

You'll notice that from left to right there are less and less high-contrast sharp edges in the scene itself.
I claim the choice of the tech demo and it's segmentation was not by chance.
While it suggests "hey, it's the same scene you see" it looks to me that the scene was specifically crafted
to hide the problematic bits.

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[quote=scaine][quote=Shmerl]

Quoting: scaineJust being Nvidia-only is good enough for me to fully get behind FSR. And the AMD showcase video for it was pretty impressive given how young the technology is (dunno what user "sub" was talking about above, claiming that FSR doesn't look as good - not only is there barely any difference, the whole point of these technologies is that they won't look as good, but you'll get 100%+ FPS out of them at high-res, and if you can only tell the difference in a side-by-side video, then that's clear "good enough").

I'm a strong AMD supporter and I absolutely hate the politics of Nvidia exploiting vendor-lockins.

Let's see how this does when it ships. I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong here,
as the open approach across vendors is the way to go, imho.

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Quoting: doomwarriorx

Quoting: subNvidia has two game changers for gaming platforms on their side.
ARM (see Apple's M1 performance and efficiency) and DLSS.

Don't get it. Why would a game console developer NOW pick Nvidia? because they own ARM? Why they haven't picked an ARM earlier? Mali was always an option or Tegra with or without Nvidia owning the "specification" comapny. With a licence everbody can design an ARM. If Nvidia changes this they can throw away ARM again everybody will switch to RISC V.

DLSS but could be the same as raytracing. If some vendor asks I have no doubt any gpu manufacturer will deliver no matter if AMD, Qualcomm, Apple or Intel.

As for ARM. Indeed, they could've licensed it before.
But the point is, that with implementations like M1 more than competitive horse power is now available at high efficiency.

More important DLSS looks like a real game changer to me.
I think you're wrong thinking this is easy to copy by competitors.
Nvidia has a aggregated a lot of know how in their software department plus they have silicons out, that provide hardware acceleration for AI operations (Tensor Cores).
Also I don't know if and how much of the DLSS stuff is patented - I guess it's a lot.

Stuff like upscaling is actually an ideal category for AI/DL,
that cannot simply be matched with a classical scaling and filtering algorithm.
It shows. FSR doesn't look that good in comparison. Plus it's slower.

There are ingame videos from games with DLSS upscaled from 1080p to 2160p running almost twice as fast and looking absolutely credible like they were rendered in the higher resolution.

I bet AMD wanted to go the same way but could not (lacking hardware support and probably patenting).

Rumor has it Nintendo will update their Switch (Switch Pro) to a version leveraging DLSS.
It's clever. Exactly what I would Nintendo expecting to do.
And you can get it from just one vendor: Nvidia.
Same like the AMD situation with the current (and previous) SONY and Microsoft consoles.

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AMD fan here. Yet, IMHO it turned out as expected.
You can't match DLSS without an AI/ML approach.
And it unfortunately shows in these videos.
The parts with FSR simply don't look as good.

This doesn't mean it's not good for anything.
In particular, as it is available across manufacturers
and a large variety of GPU models.

But it did not kill DLSS imho.

Nvidia has two game changers for gaming platforms on their side.
ARM (see Apple's M1 performance and efficiency) and DLSS.

In the long run it might get much harder again for AMD
when it comes to gaming and consoles.
Good for AMD that the current gen platforms have just been released.
I'm 100 % sure, were they still in the concept phase,
it would've been an instant design win for Nvidia.

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Maybe it's a controller with a display that just works as a Steam Remote Play client?

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