Quoting: Samsai

Quoting: Samsai

Quoting: subOh Ryan ... I only get a black screen on launch. :D
I'm sure he'll fix this.

Apparently that's not the only bug. Me and a friend ran into a script error a few screens into the game that seems pretty much game-breaking.

https://imgur.com/a/qAih9Ml [External Link]

So, it would seem this needs a patch before it gets going.

A patch landed and this issue seems to be gone now. Icculus seems to work quick!

Ryan does a great job.

He sure was (is) a very important person for Linux gaming.

Let's see how long it'll take him to fix the black screen ... :D

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Quoting: Samsai

Quoting: subOh Ryan ... I only get a black screen on launch. :D
I'm sure he'll fix this.

Apparently that's not the only bug. Me and a friend ran into a script error a few screens into the game that seems pretty much game-breaking.

https://imgur.com/a/qAih9Ml [External Link]

So, it would seem this needs a patch before it gets going.

I can't remember when I had such an obvious bug with an Icculus port.
I mean, I neither use cumbersome hardware nor distribution.

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Oh Ryan ... I only get a black screen on launch. :D
I'm sure he'll fix this.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Boldos

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: subIf they fixed all blocker issues and if it's doable without
excessive work they should release a Linux version.
Even if it won't pay by means of revenues.

It's bad business practice to simply not deliver promised products and will harm your rep.

Take it this way:

We promised, we'll deliver (even if it took years) - please consider supporting us with our next project.

They didn't promise anything, in fact they clearly said before they were not making a promise. This harms nothing. Anyone who purchased it previously did so knowingly they were getting a Windows game that *may* end up with a Linux port.

Liam, woth all dur respect they DID pronise a Linux version when they hit EA early at the beginning. This promise then quitely disappeared from all their roadmaps.

Just to make this point clear ...

I remember them talking about it being in their plans years ago, but plans change all the time in game development and as far as I can see they've never given any actual guarantees about it. I'm sure people like you will continue to argue this though.

Quoting: GuestThis whole mess generated how much free publicity for them?

Never again.

Hardly any, Linux is a niche. Let's not claim that them talking about Linux made waves anywhere really...

"... people like you ..."

C'mon on, Liam. :/

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: sub

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: subIf they fixed all blocker issues and if it's doable without
excessive work they should release a Linux version.
Even if it won't pay by means of revenues.

It's bad business practice to simply not deliver promised products and will harm your rep.

Take it this way:

We promised, we'll deliver (even if it took years) - please consider supporting us with our next project.

They didn't promise anything, in fact they clearly said before they were not making a promise. This harms nothing. Anyone who purchased it previously did so knowingly they were getting a Windows game that *may* end up with a Linux port.

Where did they say that?
I just remember statements that they are working hard on releasing a Linux version.
And a regular reminder that they can't promise to release it soon.

I don't really get where people got this impression they actually confirmed 100% they would release it. They asked for requests and then over time gave an update on how they were doing. They never said with certainty that a Linux version would release just that they wanted to.

There's also this post here: "I don't want to make any promises".

Regardless, like I always tell people: Don't assume, buy it when it's released and not before.

Would you agree with me that there is a significant difference in quality between statements

"I don't want to make any promises but...it's looking more and more like Linux will be arriving this year."

and

"I don't want to make any promises about a Linux build."

?

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: subIf they fixed all blocker issues and if it's doable without
excessive work they should release a Linux version.
Even if it won't pay by means of revenues.

It's bad business practice to simply not deliver promised products and will harm your rep.

Take it this way:

We promised, we'll deliver (even if it took years) - please consider supporting us with our next project.

They didn't promise anything, in fact they clearly said before they were not making a promise. This harms nothing. Anyone who purchased it previously did so knowingly they were getting a Windows game that *may* end up with a Linux port.

Where did they say that?
I just remember statements that they are working hard on releasing a Linux version.
And a regular reminder that they can't promise to release it soon.

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If they fixed all blocker issues and if it's doable without
excessive work they should release a Linux version.
Even if it won't pay by means of revenues.

It's bad business practice to simply not deliver promised products and will harm your rep.

Take it this way:

We promised, we'll deliver (even if it took years) - please consider supporting us with our next project.

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Quoting: fleskIt's almost exactly the same game as my previous Linux Game Jam entry. :wink:

https://flesk.itch.io/space-golf [External Link]

That really looks like a blatant copy (ofc, with a bit more work put in)
I can't tell you how I hate people stealing and exploiting ideas.
Not even giving credits... :/

Don't they dare to tell me, that's just a coincidence.

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Quoting: ArehandoroAwesome! Good for them! Looking forward to playing it.

Apart from the music, this is a one-man show (Stephan Hövelbrinks).
Which makes it even more impressive. :)

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Quoting: ObsidianBlk

Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: ObsidianBlkI get this... and I'm not saying I don't have digital games myself, but still... I have CDs I bought in the early 90s that I can still read data off of. How many hard drives can you say the same for?

Consider yourself lucky, but don't think it's a reliable method of storage. Optical discs deteriorate with time, and are a lot more error prone than hard drives which in contrast are built to last for many years.

I'm not sure how you treat your optical media, but all I do is keep them in their cases, on a shelf, and they all still work for me. In fact, I don't think there's a single CD/DVD I've attempted to use in recent years that failed to read. No media is 100% fool proof... especially if treated roughly... but, yeah, I do not see how you think optical media is worse than hard drives. I've rarely heard of a drive lasting much longer than a decade (and, that's actually a pretty solid amount of time).

Doesn't matter if your discs all still work.
Shmerl is right.
CDs and DVDs printed detoriate and should never be used as backup media.

In case of printed CDs/DVDs it's the reflection layer that detoriates.
For writable discs it's even more problematic due to the dye layer.

This is called "Disc rot".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot [External Link]

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