Quoting: nitroflow

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: rapakivBut I never seen so much hate in GOL as in this thread, relax, life is short, enjoy it

Hate? Really?! What bemuses me about this discussion actually is that the reaction is more extreme than the dislike of the actual developer. I don't really have a dog in this fight.

Really? What boggles my mind is that all the negativity comes from people that don't have a dog on this fight. The people that actually do play the game are understanding and sympathetic to the dev's decision, go figure...

Hrm. First, I notice you've redefined how I was using that phrase, such that your comment probably would have been better as a standalone than a reply to me.
Second, really? Have you been reading the same thread I have? I'd say it's pretty clear that some of the people who are bothered are in fact people who play the game. Others aren't, but your point is simply wrong. Also meant to be snide, far as I can tell. You can contribute to or detract from a conversation in two ways, content or tone; pity you chose to subtract on both fronts.

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80As for the throw away community line we have this every so often it goes back to once again the linux die hards that think they throw f bombs and act like Stallman or Linus.

1. No it does not.
2. Had it occurred to you that that is, itself, a rather inflammatory and offensive comment?
3. Do you in fact have any idea how Stallman acts?

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Quoting: rapakivBut I never seen so much hate in GOL as in this thread, relax, life is short, enjoy it

Hate? Really?! What bemuses me about this discussion actually is that the reaction is more extreme than the dislike of the actual developer. I don't really have a dog in this fight--I don't know this Garry guy, I don't care about Rust to be honest, I'm not finding myself outraged by the fellow's comments given what people have said about context but I'm not thinking they necessarily represent stuff said by a wonderful guy either.
But what I've noticed is that his detractors have said basically
a) that he's kind of a jerk, and
b) that he is anti-Linux (which isn't even technically an insult from perspectives other than ours)
That's about it. Now again, I don't know if either of these points is true or not. But it's hardly "hate"--sheesh, have some of you people ever looked at a Youtube comment?
Whereas contrariwise, some of the people arguing that Garry is not a jerk, just outspoken et cetera, and that he's not anti-Linux but simply has a habit of saying negative things about everything, and that isolated tweets are being blown out of proportion--perfectly decent arguments--have often been reacting with anger and outrage to the people who don't like Garry, much more anger than Garry's detractors themselves have expressed towards Garry. One person even called one of the Garry-complainers a fascist. So like, maybe the people who are so solicitous of developer feelings could, if they are so big on not having toxic discussions, not be more toxic than the people complaining about the developers. Developers deserve consideration, but I think people in the GoL community do too.

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Quoting: KristianIt is ever possible to infer that a person hates something or someone without an explicit statement saying so? Just based on their actions and words? I am just wondering.

Of course. Not 100%--but then, even if someone says "I hate X" they could be lying, so explicit statements don't make certainty either. But c'mon, I'm sure there's been Grand Wizards of the KKK who would steadfastly refuse to say they hated blacks, but after they ordered a few lynchings I think you could probably make an inference.
I won't say that this Garry guy is a case for such an inference, but there are plenty of cases where it's really not hard.

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Quoting: kf

Quoting: Egonaut

Quoting: kfWell, He's a Brit.

So because someone is from Britain, he's allowed to insult others? Interesting..

Yes. Unless you live in a country without free speech, he is allowed to be as condescending and insulting as he wants, fascist.

Well, he's allowed to. And you are too, in general. But not on this forum, I believe.

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I don't know anything about this Garry guy, I don't have anything against him, and I don't mind his comments about Linux. I'm willing to accept the idea that he's blunt, outspoken, sarcastic, enjoys stirring up controversy and whatnot (which, OK, if he was operating in my social milieu would probably be taken as "he's a jerk", but I can deal with the concept that social environments differ). All fine.

What strikes me as weird is him then saying stuff like

Also Linux Community - being abusive, demanding, rude to the few developers actually shipping games to your favourite OS isn't the way to go. It makes me regret ever shipping Linux versions.

Hang on, mate, isn't that just the Linux community being blunt, outspoken and sarcastic, maybe a little controversial? Suddenly if it's someone else being a bit forthright, that's not OK and he gets to be what he would no doubt call a snowflake? If you're going to be insisting others have a thick skin, you should maybe cultivate one of your own. Contrariwise, if someone's going to insist that everyone be sweet and nice and polite to them, then perhaps they should put a rein on their blunt outspoken sarcasm. One set of rules, friend. To put it the old fashioned way, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

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Looking at the gameplay demo, oddly what struck me was the music. I like the music quite a lot--always been fond of jazz trumpets.
I mean, the rest looked pretty cool, don't get me wrong. But it's rare for me to start looking at a game and the first thing I think is, "I can dig this sound".

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Quoting: qptain Nemo

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Slow and steady wins the race?

Not usually that great a tactic, but it seems to work for Valve (gestures towards great steaming mountains of money).

Why not?

Because you tend to get beaten by "fast". The real moral of "The Tortoise and the Hare" is "don't underestimate your opponent", not "be slow".

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The tea gets cold? What kind of sordid horror game is this?!

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Slow and steady wins the race?

Not usually that great a tactic, but it seems to work for Valve (gestures towards great steaming mountains of money).

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