Quoting: Desum

Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: DesumOh goodie. The ultimate DRM and censorship scheme. I'm so excited this is being warmly received because the servers happen to be running on Linux.

i'm worried about DRM and censorship too, but lets take it easy for now.
just remember that chromeOS was online only too when it launched, i think stadia is just an temporary solution until they can get more marketshare for their chromeOS, then they will be able to entice more developers to add offline capabilities too.
actually, chromeOS may be the reason why they are doing stadia anyway, its the only way to make it grow, without games it would strugle to grow otherwise.
also, i'm pretty sure that sony or microsoft will attack that disadvantage that stadia has to attack it, so they will have to respond.

also: onlive is not alive anymore, not because the company was bankrupt but because they where acquired by sony to use their technology on psnow...
lets just remember that before they shut down their servers they offered the option to download your games from they. (cloud lift)

in any case.
be the future an utopy or an distopy, there is NOTHING we can do about it.

There is plenty we can do about it. Just because SOME things are not in our control, doesn't mean nothing is.

we cant even trust our processor, its pointless to have even an open source compiler if we can't trust the processor itself

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: elmapulyou need to decode things fast in order to get an good experience, they only way to do that is with either an good processor, video card or asic.

Current integrated graphics have built-in VP9 support.

yes, that built-in vp9 suport IS an asic, it dont matter if its part of the processor or gpu, it does have one.

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i'm more impressed with the cache than anything, and cache is more important than most people think

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looks like the era of "apps co" and "ops co" finally has come

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Quoting: Linuxwarperhttps://opensource.google/projects/explore/featured [External Link]
android, chromium, go language, dart language, fuchsia os, kubernetes, webrtc, webm and many many more. And coincidentally some of those projects have benefited their competitors like amazon using the android fork, fireos ;

actually fuchsia may be a bad thing, it will be just like linux, except that the licence allow it to not be open source in the future

and fireos was not able to compete, competing is not as easy as to make a fork, especially when a lot of games use google play service and a lot of purchases of apps are done withing google play services, its a lock-in, an disguised one, but still an lock-in.

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Quoting: chancho_zombie

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: chancho_zombie

and it will work across devices right away (so you don't need to use that fancy Chromecast Ultra). As long as your Linux PC has a Chrome browser installed, it should work fine.

I don't get this it should work on normal chrome browser even on android phones??. So then it should work in a normal Chromecast :huh: UH?

From what I read somewhere, it's because the original Chromecast doesn't support VP9.

I still don't get it. Wasn't stadia supposed to be interconnected with youtube?? I can stream from my linux pc with chrome or from my android phone to my chromecast, why should it be any different? I guess will have to wait to know the details why this is not possible.

you need to decode things fast in order to get an good experience, they only way to do that is with either an good processor, video card or asic.
chromecast 3 probably has an asic for vp9, and new phones can do that either by an asic on the cpu, the gpu or by bruthe force (without an dedicated hardware extension, using more cycles to process the same information, but still doing it fast enough)

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Quoting: DesumOh goodie. The ultimate DRM and censorship scheme. I'm so excited this is being warmly received because the servers happen to be running on Linux.

i'm worried about DRM and censorship too, but lets take it easy for now.
just remember that chromeOS was online only too when it launched, i think stadia is just an temporary solution until they can get more marketshare for their chromeOS, then they will be able to entice more developers to add offline capabilities too.
actually, chromeOS may be the reason why they are doing stadia anyway, its the only way to make it grow, without games it would strugle to grow otherwise.
also, i'm pretty sure that sony or microsoft will attack that disadvantage that stadia has to attack it, so they will have to respond.

also: onlive is not alive anymore, not because the company was bankrupt but because they where acquired by sony to use their technology on psnow...
lets just remember that before they shut down their servers they offered the option to download your games from they. (cloud lift)

in any case.
be the future an utopy or an distopy, there is NOTHING we can do about it.

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: elmapuli said it.

we just wasted millions of dollars that could be better spend into funding an open source software instead of an console that had no chance to compete and was most likely an crash grab scheme,
Nintendo paid 1 billion to unity to support then back in the WiiU days, this project had much less money than that, why would epic, unity or anyone support then?
their dont pay for the cost of production of an single triple A game.

"They explained that the pre-production Atari VCS units can run both Windows and Linux and that's about it right now."
and as the last nail in the coffin, many people who purchased this, will not wait for the ports, they will just install winodos on it an call it a day, as an result, the developers who might be interessed in supporting it will just support windows instead.
we supported it hoping that it will increase the linux market but it will be yet another dead project hurting the linux "brand".

but at least now every one know an quick way to make money, an carmagedon-esque way of making.
slap linux on your project description, so you get an quick buck from fools activists, then give us an midle finger.

According to some on the AtariAge forum, there were even people sending them emails asking if they wanted some games written for it, and there were either no response, or them saying no. These would have been exclusive remakes of Pitfall (at least) if I recall. So yeah, I don't know what the hell they are thinking. If they had done this right, it could have been pretty sweet, and it initially looked like they were going to, but it looks like they're just kind of flopping around (or is that fapping?).

of course they dont want, if they accept they would have to tell the developers about the specs of the device, this device dont even exist so they cant do that, they can lie with something but this like may leak and they will get in trouble to explain their selves.

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this is freaking cool, but you know what is even cooler?

just buying another regular keyboard and reconfiguring it to act as something else (eg: act as this device) instead of buying an device that any tech savy people dont really need.

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i said it.

we just wasted millions of dollars that could be better spend into funding an open source software instead of an console that had no chance to compete and was most likely an crash grab scheme,
Nintendo paid 1 billion to unity to support then back in the WiiU days, this project had much less money than that, why would epic, unity or anyone support then?
their dont pay for the cost of production of an single triple A game.

"They explained that the pre-production Atari VCS units can run both Windows and Linux and that's about it right now."
and as the last nail in the coffin, many people who purchased this, will not wait for the ports, they will just install winodos on it an call it a day, as an result, the developers who might be interessed in supporting it will just support windows instead.
we supported it hoping that it will increase the linux market but it will be yet another dead project hurting the linux "brand".

but at least now every one know an quick way to make money, an carmagedon-esque way of making.
slap linux on your project description, so you get an quick buck from fools activists, then give us an midle finger.

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