Soooo, TF2 with new skins then ?

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: JarmerThank goodness GOL exists as a free independent entity with quality content.

And for all those who wish GOL to remain that way, *taps the sign*.

Quoting: Jarmeryes absolutely! Sorry I should totally have posted that link myself lol. Everyone go sub, because by god we need to keep this community around.

Cough* have done for years! Cough*

:tongue:

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Quoting: Vasilis

Quoting: stormtuxFrom the Steam store:

System Requirements

Minimum:
OS: SteamOS 3.5.17

Really?!? :dizzy:

I was thinking for a Linux exclusive first, we are testing it on:

1. Fedora (it's my machine)
2. Ubuntu
3. Steam deck

It should work for all Linux distros, we just put that as a minimum.

No arch !!!! tut, tut, tut.

:grin:

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Quoting: BlackBloodRum"on Steam's proprietary console"
Haha, nice little dig there! :grin: Reminding us it's not as free as it may seem :wink:

Odd thing to say to be honest as I bet the hardware they where making said game on is proprietary too.

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Quoting: tuubiOBS already has an AMF encoder.

This is what I use, like stated before I have used va-api it's just not even close to AMF as AMF actually works reliably and good quality recording with next to zero performance hit.

Quoting: ShmerlWhat exactly is bad?

Quoting: pete910Slow with bad quality at a given bitrate, and more often than not just overloads and crashes.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: tuubiSucks in what way?

Slow with bad quality at a given bitrate, and more often than not just overloads and crashes.

Did you test with OBS? I know they had bugs in their VAAPI implementation causing worse quality at some point, but those should be mostly fixed in 30.x. Also Mesa improved video encode quality on AMD's VCN in Mesa 23.3 and older VCE/UVD hardware in 24.0. You might be basing your opinion on outdated information.

For me there was no real difference in speed, quality or resource usage between the APIs, testing with ffmpeg on latest stable Mesa. And that makes sense as both make use of the same encoding hardware. I pretty much only tested AV1 encoding though, and not very thoroughly. YMMV.

Quoting: pete910Still need AMD's bit though to use the hardware.

Mesa doesn't need any proprietary bits to access the video encode hardware.

Tried with mesa 24.1 and OBS 30.1.

Quoting: tuubiMesa doesn't need any proprietary bits to access the video encode hardware.

That maybe the case but why is it so bad then if using the hardware to the full extent that AMF can?

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: pete910Still need AMD's bit though to use the hardware.

If it was as simple as that nvenc,AMF ect wouldn't be needed for any graphics card.

Given that AMF has RADV support now I would have thought it would be a no brainer to add by default to OBS from now on.

Not according to AMD developers. AMF used to rely on Vulkan-like functionality plugging into hardware's ioctl, because Vulkan video was still work in progress. But now Vulkan spec and drivers have that through Vulkan API, so AMF now uses Vulkan proper, not hardware directly. So basically, you don't need to use AMF if you want to use same Vulkan video functions.

So yes, I'd say OBS and anyone else doesn't need AMF at all, as long as they know / want to use Vulkan. The only reason to support AMF according to AMD developers are some applications that already use it and can't move to Vulkan for whatever reason (like no one is developing them). And OBS isn't such case clearly, so it would be a complete waste of effort for them to add AMF support. Same goes for ffmpeg. They should focus on Vulkan video.

Is va-api using this technique of hardware encode? If so it needs some serious work to match AMF

Will vulkan vid encode also do opengl based apps ?

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Quoting: tuubiSucks in what way?

Slow with bad quality at a given bitrate, and more often than not just overloads and crashes.

Quoting: ShmerlAMF uses Vulkan video. So better ask, why not include Vulkan video directly to OBS?

Still need AMD's bit though to use the hardware.

If it was as simple as that nvenc,AMF ect wouldn't be needed for any graphics card.

Given that AMF has RADV support now I would have thought it would be a no brainer to add by default to OBS from now on.

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Why not include AMF too while they where at it? I know I can use va-api but it sucks compared to AMF.

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Fudge, Now I feel old :huh:

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