Quoting: kfIf you're not familiar with the series, X Rebirth is an ok game, just a terrible X game.

^^^ this.

By far my fav is still X3:reunion . The hours I put into the original LGP port...

Have anther 100 or so on the seam/egosoft port.

X3:Albion Prelude is good too

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Not really, noticed that the likes was missing! After the first few comments I read I figured the usual had gone on with most YT vids.

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One word, Awesome !

Love the portal games.

Not sure why people are bitching about it on YT though.

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Quoting: Samsai

Quoting: salamanderrake

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: oldgarolmaooo...good time to move away from NVIDIA!

Well, no. Let's not pretend Mesa is perfect. All software has bugs and regressions.

Well, no. Let's not pretend Mesa is a *competitor*. Leaving NVIDIA because of this bug is like ditching your car because you got a flat tire and instead using a skateboard.

In this day and age what you said is nothing but FUD. Please update your preconceptions.

When mesa updates their performance then I'll update preconceptions.

In ?

What card do you have now?

To be honest you are coming across as a bit anti Mesa/AMD with comments like that .

What was the last AMD card you have used on Linux with mesa out of interest ?

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^^^^ This, If a game needs a driver profile that means either the game or the driver is broken/buggy code.

Point of fact is it's a far better experience on AMD now than NV on linux. I purposely swapped from a gtx1080 to a rx64 and my only regret is not doing it sooner! The overall experience needs to be experienced to understand just how quircky to damn right crap the NV driver is.

Before any fanbois start I've had the 1080 for over a year so know first hand how good/bad the drivers are/have been on the whole.

Is mesa perfect? Gawd no! but compared to the NV drivers is's damn site better.
For instance, plasma has not crashed once since the AMD card has been in.

But we'll get the "BUT AMD IS SLOW" To be honest, for the most part the rx matches and even beats the 1080 in some instances.

Trouble is, most people are just regurgitating ATI of old and have more than likely not used a AMD card in Linux for a long time if at all.

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Quoting: GuestBTW, by default, Sky Force recognized my arcade stick as the 2nd player, and my Logitech gamepad as 1st player. It it possible to exchange them, without tweaking the Steam configuration or USB ports ? If I start the game with my arcade stick, it starts in 2 players mode :(

Which ever controller is used first when game starts is generally considered the first one .

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I will be getting this for Mrs and me for sure, Local coop in the anniversary was fun. Supported duel steam controllers well too

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Quoting: Samsai

Quoting: pete910

Quoting: Samsai

Quoting: pete910@samsai get that ram 3000 + preferably 3200. You are losing 40% ish of perf with that ram @ 2133

The kit I own does not go beyond 2133, so that's where it will stay. Plus, I highly doubt that 40% figure, considering the performance would have to scale almost perfectly with memory speed, which is only possible in situations where you are only stressing the memory and nothing else. Going by figures online, my prediction would be around 10-20% improvement in some games and below 10% in productivity. At the current DDR4 prices I am not going to be replacing my 16GB kit with faster memory for those kinds of figures.

Not done your homework have you :P

The Mem speed is tied in to the inter CCX of the ryzen arch. thus why a big diff can be had.

View video on youtube.com This gives you one example, all be it on windows. There is countless others too

But yes mem prices are ludicrous ATM.

I am aware of the effect memory speed has on inter-CCX communications and the examples you provided align with my prediction of 10-20% improvement, varying from game to game. None of the games shown in that video had scaling up to 40%. Plus, those benchmarks were run with the CPU clocked at 4GHz, whereas my CPU is clocked at a peak of 3.7GHz, meaning that memory speed differences become even more pronounced.

I admit 40% is best case, But yes alot are at stock like yours is at. What I was getting at is that it's not just games that benefit from it. As for your predictions, well



As is evident, pretty much 40%. again best case but still. You see my point.

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Quoting: Samsai

Quoting: pete910@samsai get that ram 3000 + preferably 3200. You are losing 40% ish of perf with that ram @ 2133

The kit I own does not go beyond 2133, so that's where it will stay. Plus, I highly doubt that 40% figure, considering the performance would have to scale almost perfectly with memory speed, which is only possible in situations where you are only stressing the memory and nothing else. Going by figures online, my prediction would be around 10-20% improvement in some games and below 10% in productivity. At the current DDR4 prices I am not going to be replacing my 16GB kit with faster memory for those kinds of figures.

Not done your homework have you :P

The Mem speed is tied in to the inter CCX of the ryzen arch. thus why a big diff can be had.

View video on youtube.com This gives you one example, all be it on windows. There is countless others too

But yes mem prices are ludicrous ATM.

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Quoting: meggerman

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: fatriffFeral recommends using the NVIDIA 384 driver series for now when playing this game as there are some current regressions with the 387 series up through 387.22.

Phoronix is getting 133FPS on Ultra VS your 80FPS on the same card..

As already stated in the article and in the comments, I tested both driver versions and the difference was negligible.

I'm currently going through more tests to see if I can find any reason for me to possibly have lower than expected performance.

Keep in mind with Phoronix, his CPU is overclocked at 1.7GHZ faster than mine.

The linked Youtube be benchmark is also using a 1GHZ faster processor.

The base clock on mine is only 3GHZ, which could account for a lot of it.

Then again keep in mind that it might not be that ..

Quoting: pete910Arguments aside, Vulkan is awesome.

1440p ultra settings. CPU barely braking a sweat. How it should be on modern CPU's ;)

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Could it be Gnome again ? I have experienced slower performance on select games under Gnome, it's one of the reasons i moved away from it. Phoronix testing was done under Unity AFAIK and that uses compiz, ubuntu-unity(compiz) is still the default recommended platform for most linux titles and id imagine many are tested on there.

Does Gnome desktop really take it's hand off the compositing fully ? If so how does the full screen hot key to mode work so seamlessly to grab the game window and present it in overview mode. Perhaps now Ubuntu has moved to Gnome, future games can be developed and tested on Gnome.

Could what ?

Not that I use gnome or even *buntu :P

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