Quoting: Crazy PenguinIt seems the Windows-Build isn't DRM-Free as well, as it needs GOG Galaxy esp. for Multiplayer and an additional Kalypso-Account. As we know GOG hasn't even a Linuxbuild of Galaxy, so you will not see a Linuxversion of Grand Ages & Dungeons 2 on GOG very soon.

I don't like the direction GOG is heading and Kalypso should be ashamed for that crap!

Me also not: After all it seems we are getting another Steam-clone now with GOG.com and its Galaxy-client. Combining what we know you are absolutely right. It's a shame what Kalypso is doing. But the only thing to get a clear message is not buying this crap.

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And again a game from Kalypso ported to Linux also not available as DRM-free build on GOG. What a shame after Dungeons 2! :(

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Quoting: liamdaweIf you want to debate this again, the forum is probably a better place ;)

Okay, respecting this, liam. Thanks for the feedback. Understood the short wink with the fence post - no sarcasm in this. :)

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@kurros: And just to clarify the client is needed for the installation especially for Windows. If you refer to Linux this could match taking the downloaded files as packed file. Even if the software afterwards has no further need for the Steam-client to be started in background there were enough customers waiting to have the Linux-version on GOG and not on Steam!

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Thanks, liam. Bought it, downloading right now. :)

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Quoting: Mountain ManHave you ready any EULA before? They're actually not much different now than they were 10-years ago. The only real difference is that here in the digital age, developers and publishers actually have a means of enforcing the EULA.

Yes I've read EULA before and again it is just a cheap excuse is that customer rights are not very important for you.

Quoting: Mountain ManThe phrase "Cutting off your nose to spite your face" comes to mind.

Keep on praising the platform Steam and Valve as company to the skies: There are enough games to play without and WINE helps very good settling down the ones without native versions. :) This was before Steam and will go on.

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Quoting: Mountain ManIt's silly to deny that Valve and Steam for Linux have had a huge impact on Linux gaming. If not for Valve's efforts, we'd almost certainly be where we were two or three years ago with the occasional indie release or Humble Bundle. There's no way at all we'd be getting the kind of AAA games we're getting now.

What is so silly about the fact that the customer rights on accessing some games through Steam are not very good handled? In fact there are no really rights and reading some excerpts from their eula is comparable reading a leasing contract. I just don't want to lease software, I want to buy the license of a lifetime and use it whenever, wherever and however I want. It is not silly to demand that the customer could use his own right trying to form Steam as a whole platform instead only accepting what is presented and consume it. Remembering: The personal shopping list is also some kind of ballot paper, either while shopping on- or offline. This concept doesn't make a hold before Steam or any other platform!

And again a personal note: I don't want and need some big games. I just want to have fun and this is going up very good also with most Indie-titles. If I have to pay the price and only lease my games getting therefore them marked with this new modern attribute AAA the publisher can keep all of them! That is my way of the mentioned shopping list. Not DRM-free? Keep it!

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Quoting: Mountain ManHmmm... And I really don't get the anti-Steam hate I'm seeing here. If it wasn't for Valve and Steam for Linux, we'd still be dual-booting Windows in order to enjoy our hobby instead of being able to delete our Windows partitions while still having enough high-quality commercial games to keep us entertained for years.

The movement up to Linux is not just based on Valve or their platform Steam. Yes, they've done their part on that but the credits just don't go to them because the platform Linux itself got everything on its own and Valve just used most of the libraries and combined them. There are also enough other helpers like Wine making games under Linux possible. In fact Steam is just another proprietary package to be installed. It is kind of funny that some people - nobody exactly in this discussion - have problems with the driver blobs of NVidia on the one hand and on the other hand they praise Steam as their final solution but both of them are NOT open or even transparent.

Just to be honest: With the view on Windows 10 I'd have even deleted my partition now and have no more newer games possible. :) I'm not thankful for Steam, because the whole platform is just another whole kind of DRM-mechanism. And I don't need some client which takes over my software-packages for updates I want myself to decide to either using an update or not at a time.

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Quoting: ricki42Anyway, I don't think calling them liars and arrogant is particularly productive. Putting the Linux version on GOG will require extra work, maybe not a lot, but someone has to do it, and I doubt they have anyone who has done this before.
I'm disappointed as well that the GOG Linux version is still not up, but it's been only about a month, while for Age of Wonders 3 it's been almost half a year. And name-calling certainly isn't going to make the game appear faster.

I called Triumph that way, not Haemimont Games. The problem is that there are more games with native Linux-versions on Steam or another DRM-platform and GOG has nothing but the Windows-version, the Metro-series for example or Dungeons 2 as the last example. And the developers from Triumph said that they would perhabs release a DRM-free version when Galaxy starts. Now Galaxy is available, but where is that version? This is frustrating, treated like something nobody really wants. It is arrogant because in fact also the DRM-free build for Windows needs a little bit of work and in fact it is a cheap lie!

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Quoting: ricki42Haven't played this since the Linux version was in beta.
But still no Linux on GOG :( I wonder if mod support actually makes that even less likely.
Makes Triumph's Linux support a bit of a mixed bag. I'm glad they support it at all, including mods, but I wished they went all the way.
Still, it's progress, and day-one support for mods is good news.

I call the developers of this game just liars: Just arrogant claiming they cannot publish a DRM-free version because of the Steam-framework. And for this they won't see just one cent from me for that! :(

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