Quoting: LeopardIf you can guarentee that Drm free releases are not open to abusing,then we will tell all developers -who works years on that games- to turn completely Drm free.

I bet if you were a dev,you will go with Drm,i'm pretty sure.

Drm lovers arguments are so lame actually and all of them hid a purpose under that words.They just don't want to pay,that's all.They're not giving a single shit besides that.

You know what? I don't care about your so-called argumentation, because it is nothing more than a very cheap excuse. Instead bringing up a concrete point you just ranting about DRM-free. You are just generalizing, which is a very good indicator that you are not willing to discuss. Your view is the right one, end of talk? Not the reality and not so easy. I've paid for every license I own, even today I've got the package of the classic adventure Blade Runner, which is lying besides my desk now waiting for installation. And I've paid a good price for it, not cheap. Because? Yeah, as I've said: I love classic games, without DRM. So keep your proprietary platform and calm down. ;)

A game is not available DRM-free? I won't buy it and I won't use any version besides the official, because the publisher / developer don't want me or better the way I want to use it.

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Quoting: LeopardOhhh,c'mon.

Most of Drm Free lovers are just wants this because of playing the game not infected for free.You all want it because of clean pirating.

Here's another example by monologues.

Organizer:Hey,dudes.Check this game out,it's so sweet.We should buy it.

Other fellas:Yeah,but it's so expensive and we're on Linux so that means our torrenting options are almost zero,mate.

O:No,there is another way.We're 7 guys,let's split the amount of game to 7.Give me your cuts.I will buy it from GOG and give away copies to each of us.

Hahha,get rekt devs.Problem solved...

Oh yes, of course ... defaming people talking about criticism is always the best choice - not really, but worth a try as putting hands on the ears, mumbling to not listen. Because some people don't care about legal things, everyone talking about DRM is just another pirate. Really bad joke! :)

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Erm, sorry what? Because millions of users using Steam so it is exactly nothing to worry about? That's a very questionable argument. Same to use for all the other closed services (to name some: Facebook, Twitter, Spotify, YouTube, Instagram, WhatsApp etc.). Following this everything can be seen relative or a compromise. There is nothing to do by convincing, either someone choose DRM-free or not. Even though time is for DRM-free: When the first games completely bound to those platforms goes classic they cannot be used any longer if those platforms are put to rest - just have a look on Games for Windows LIVE or multiplayer-modes over GameSpy. Besides: Centralization was, is and will be always bad! I can only speak out for myself: It is enough making older classics running throughout WINE and having DRM-free native games as closed source applications with no further boundaries for proprietary services. That's the maximum compromise for me, as I love games and further more the classics like The Dark Project or System Shock 1 / 2. And as long as there is a choice: It is okay. But this choice will grow more small as more users just bound themselves on those services, not being the owner of a license just renting it and it can be undone everytime. Of course it'll be some PR-desaster but do you really think the big players won't use that? They test us as users and how far they can do it until the first will cry louder. And having an eye on the concurrent situation: The mass don't even care about things like privacy or being literally owned from elsewhere / outside. The loud crying is going quiet as we are writing here! And a colorful, individual usage should be a major goal for us all, not being concentrated on those centralized monopolies. Going to the next store around the corner: There is no game or application without online-activation available. Freedom of choice? Not really! ;)

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Quoting: GuestNo, you can’t.

No? Thought this was one possibility. :huh:
Perhaps with the OFFLINE-mode? Correct me if wrong, I have no Steam account and the last time checked was back in 2005, so long time ago.

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Quoting: LeopardYou can turn off auto-updates on Steam.

Yes, I Know. But this is just an OPT-OUT instead of OPT-IN. But let's talk about this elsewhere within the forums for example. It was just another note and of course everybody is free to use what is fitting. In the end it matters that there is always a choice either using DRM or not. :)

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Quoting: EikeThen again, the later could happen with a DRM free download as well. If there's an update, Steam would automatically install it for you, while for a DRM free download, you would need to do yourself. If there's an update, that is (applies to both ways obviously).

And there were updates made in the past which ruined your complete installation of a game - such happened for example with the newer releases for Darksiders. Making an update optional to be installed, even handled to be manual, this is no problem at all and just as a sidenote you are in control of your software, not a client.

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Quoting: liamdaweAll big releases go to Steam, that's basically a standard for PC gaming (apart from EA/Blizzard games). You either have to learn to live with it and accept some compromises, or stop complaining about it as it's likely not going to change.

Facts about wrong standardization? Those false standards are only within this position because we as users accept them. I've learned to live with it: Just don't use Steam and from my point of view complaining or better criticism is the best way to do. ;)

Quoting: EikeOr are you opposed to Steam as payment and download portal in the first place and don't care if there's actual DRM?

Both: There is no further reason having a DRM-platform on a free, libre operating-system. Everything else is making just another clone of other well-known systems. But I think this talk should be done elsewhere!

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Not a single release of those is available without Steam or DRM in general.
Or I have old information? Making my concurrent Linux-distribution to another closed system with dongled services? No thanks!

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Just asking: No server for Starbound? :|

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Would it be possible having some hints about "Gallium Nine" to be included within the build process? To be honest: For the moment I'm trying this out with an R600 but I don't get the DRI3-support working on my Devuan-System. :(

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