Quoting: foobrewKeep in mind that some of the games on that list which are marked as "Broken (Anti-Cheat)" do actually work just fine as long as you don't try to connect to official servers. Case in point, Conan Exiles runs fantastic under proton and you can connect just fine to non-official servers (or run your own).

I'm not disagreeing with the "Broken" designation but just wanted to point out that it may run just fine with caveats. This is generally how games like this are classified on Proton and Wine's DB's - something like "Runs (with issues)" etc.

Yeah I get that, but for the purpose of properly working, it's Broken as far as I am concerned. It's what people expect from it, so I would rather not set up false expectations for people :)

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Quoting: wytrabbitDid they already confirm Linux support?

"PC" is all they confirmed currently.

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Quoting: CyborgZetaCan someone explain root access for Dolphin? When I needed to add udev rules for Steam in my EndeavourOS install, I had to put it in a folder in root, and I had to use the terminal to move it to said folder. Does this update mean I could drag-and-drop without needed the terminal?

Yes, it would ask for a password and then let you do it.

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Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]You seem like you are since you have such an issue with what I originally wrote that you felt the need to replay to my comments now twice lol. If I'm being defensive, it's about the fact that we're painting a false picture for new Linux users of the reality of the situation.

If you don't want debate or replies, don't comment at all. Honestly, I don't get the attitude. You're getting rude.

Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]And yes Liam, I do leave bug reports and put my experiences on ProtonDB, and in fact mine are much more detailed than the average user I'll let you know. There are so many users who just thumb up a game and say it works without writing any details about how they got it to work. And BTW you write 'Thousands of reports', on what the whole website of ProtonDB or one game? These things matter, because on one game like It Takes Two there are 63 reports and many of those are updated reports from the same user which makes it closer to 50 something...LMAO.

Okay. So link us to your bug report about failing to install a game, like I asked you for?

Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]You should really be nicer to someone who makes up 2 percent of your ProtonDB reports, tsk tsk. ;)

Nicer? You're the one being passive aggressive and overly defensive here. Stop it.

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Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]Look IDC if you want to be defensive about an operating system and it's game comptability. You chalk it off to some obscure hardware or something, I'm running official and up to date Nvidia graphics drivers on a 3070 Ti and on Linux Mint 20.2...one of the most popular distros right now.

No one is being defensive here, except perhaps you? I can't say I've ever had an issue installing a game through Steam. It really is the most basic feature. Did you open a bug report? Can we see it?

Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]Yes there is, when it works for 90+% of users of any type of distro I'd consider that perfect. I'm under a strong impression that most of what is listed as 'Just works' does not work for 90+% of Linux users right now. That's the sad reality, maybe half of what you listed will actually 'Just work'.

So pure conjecture based on feelings by the sounds of it.

Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]That's how it is in Windows, that's the reality. It's not a guessing game on your hardware and what version Windows update you're running. Again you're setting up for more LTTs and your defensiveness shows that we have a long way to go as the community.

Again, not being defensive. You can't hide a lack of an argument by claiming someone is being defensive. It's weird.

Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]Imagine if we had instead of boasting about Linux and how 80% of the top 100 games work, we tempered expectation and were realistic about Linux's game compatability, I guarantee that LTT video would look a lot different right now.

This is a realistic look, based on thousands of reports across many distributions and hardware combinations. Those that don't work say so, those that are unstable say so, those that "just work" for the majority say so.

Honestly, your posts just come across as a disgruntled user who couldn't get something working so thinks that's the case for most people.

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Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]This list is actually worse than people realize lol. A lot of the work with Proton games only work on specific hardware and or distros.

The list of games that only work on one GPU vendor is very short and I don't believe any in that list only work with one vendor. There's a couple we listed as Unstable pretty clearly and they are not included in the %.

Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]Similar issues with It Takes Two, it just would not install on Linux Mint.

Uh, if you're failing to even install something, I think there's bigger issues on your system ;)

Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]And no users are not even going to hit 70 percent of games bring playable IMO, its closer to 50 - 60 and even then some tweaks are required. Feels like we are setting newbies up like what happened with LTTs videos. They are going to realize how much of a headache it still is and be off put by Linux once again.

It will of course be different for everyone. This article is not a "you will see x amount", the article is very clearly targetting the top 100.

Quoting: [Linuxtayshady]Imo we should temper expectations. And unless something PERFECTLY works across multiple distros and hardware writing 'Works with Proton' is extremely misleading and setting up new users for failure.

There is no such thing as perfect, never will be. You can literally never account for every single random piece of hardware or distribution run by users. It's exactly the same for Windows and how some people can't get x game working. There is no misleading because random Joe couldn't get some random game working on their random distribution they found on some outdated list somewhere.

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Quoting: pleasereadthemanualI've heard some strange rumors about Valve holding onto an "internal" version of Proton that is supposedly much different to what regular users have access to, but I've dismissed it as people misunderstanding something about ProtonDB.

Valve 100% said they have Proton work that's not public, but we don't know if any of that has been released since. This was in a Steamworks video in July https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q_C5KVJbUw [External Link]

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Quoting: pleasereadthemanual

Quoting: rustybroomhandleWhy? This makes no sense. If that is the expectation they are setting for your users then yes, but if they are telling people that "these 80% verified green tick games work" then you should not expect to run the other 20% and then complain about it.

Well, if you go to the website [External Link], they don't say anything about some of your games not working. They set up expectations to the contrary like:

Steam, without compromises

Your Steam library is already on your Deck.

Once you've logged into Steam Deck, your entire Steam Library shows up, just like any other PC. You'll be able to find your collections and favorites - exactly where you left them.

And I still think it's really bad to market it like that, but the other side is...it's marketing, of course they're going to say that. The reality, as we all know, is different. Unless, they are hiding a number of Proton updates and have more anti-cheat stuff lined up.

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Quoting: t3gFor game controllers, I am currently using an Xbox Elite v2 and I was curious if you could add the Elite controllers to the list. :-)

Added.

Quoting: t3gAs for VR headsets, I have an HP Reverb G2 (not in the list) but I'm not sure how popular that is either. Maybe you could add a general "Windows Mixed Reality" headset. Sounds kinda weird running on a Linux OS though heh.

Added Reverb G2.

Also added a bunch of 8BitDo Gamepads.

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Quoting: ochitaNew user here, when i was filling out the pc specs i was wondering why we dont just have the user copy paste the steam provided system info and then have a few questions you have to provide yourself like the gamepad and main gaming machine question.

I would need to write a parser for it and it wouldn't save much time at all. It takes the same time to fill a few boxes as it does to open Steam, go to settings and get the system info to then paste it in. Just not worth the effort really.

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