Quoting: supashang

Quoting: liamdaweI use myself as a prime example of this

Tells me to think outside of my own box, then uses an argument of his own personal gaming experience with AAA as justification of "thinking outside ones personal box"! Seriously?

Quoting: liamdaweNo, I know exactly what you said.

No, I'm sorry, I beg to disagree. See you when you get there. You know, when you decide to play "Eldritch" over "Alien: Isolation"...

You obviously don't get what I'm trying to say: I'm a prime example of the people who wouldn't go out and buy one usually because of the lack of AAA games, but I am already invested in Linux obviously.

Yeah, because Eldritch is on the same level, and the same genre, right..

You're amusing bro.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: psppwner300

Quoting: Graham Smith“Don’t launch in Early Access if you can’t afford to develop with very few or no sales.” I imagine that, if followed, this guideline would cut down on the number of games released through the service by about 95%.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

If I don't misread this, these rules are not from Rock, Paper, Shotgun, but have been set by Valve.
Now developers only need to obey to them...

I don't know who wrote those rules, but I think it is Valve since it's quoted.

I somewhat agree, some games are really cool where the developer obviously can't live off it. I wouldn't want them to vanish, but some level of curating needs to be done.

Valve added community curators, like our page, but it doesn't stop the problem at all.

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Quoting: supashangObviously from your reply you think that I'm a Indie only fan and failed to understand the gist of my argument.
I never said that SteamOS doesn't need AAA gaming titles to be a success - I was trying to make the point that having AAA titles doesn't necessarily mean that you are guaranteed to have fun playing.

No, I know exactly what you said. I'm simply pointing out because you're having fun with indie games, it doesn't mean the vast majority will. Indie games for the most part still sell far less, and have far less of a push than the bigger budget games.

I use myself as a prime example of this, I don't put all that much time into indie games often, but I put tons of hours into the bigger games. XCOM for example is one of the highest hours playtime I have on any game (all of which are under Linux I should add).

Quoting: supashangMost AAA games that arrive on Linux are months after they have arrived on Windows anyway, which means that only new people to gaming and Steam will experience AAA titles as a success for the Linux platform.
Case in point, how many people bought and played "Witcher 2", "Alien: Isolation" or "Shadow or Mordor" on Windows months/years before they arrived on Linux? I know I did.
By the time those titles arrived on Linux many people had completed them on Windows anyway. Where is the incentive to play them again just because it feels fluffy to now have them in your Steam Linux library? Is that going to make SteamOS a success?!
You know I'm right, but can you admit it?

Where did I say anything about having delayed AAA games was a good thing? Why wouldn't I "admit it" as you phrased it that having same-day release was important? In fact I'm sure I've said it plenty of times that a same-day release is excellent and needs to happen more.

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Quoting: supashangI'm sorry, but people need to understand that AAA games does not mean "must have for best gaming experience". I've had more fun playing Indie games on my Linux steam library lately than I have on any AAA (except Skyrim) that I have in my AAA Windows library. I shouldn't need to mention how many AA titles have been a complete disaster after launch on Windows. Indie FTW.

The problem here is what you're happy with, isn't what others are happy with.

Niche indie games won't push Steam Machines to be a major success, we do need the bigger AAA games. You may not think so, but all reviews so far have noted the lack of them as a downside, many users won't switch due to not having them available, etc.

You need to think outside of your own personal box.

Otherwise, we are destined to be the 1% forever.

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Quoting: Nel

Quoting: liamdaweQuestion: Would people prefer this all in one page, instead of a break to page two?

Don't care.

Quoting: liamdaweIs 20 enough, or would you want more?

Enough, even if I see only 15 right now.

Quoting: liamdaweShould we keep the pictures, or stick to links?

yeah pictures! :)

You're right, there is only 15 which is odd. I will make sure it's fixed for next month which should have some very interesting high articles after the SM release.

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Question: Would people prefer this all in one page, instead of a break to page two?

Is 20 enough, or would you want more?

Should we keep the pictures, or stick to links?

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Quoting: Farmboy0There seems to be a line missing after the heading About Banished

Fixed.

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Quoting: Seegras

Quoting: FireDartI also bought Alien: Isolation on humble with the Windows icon since it was $12 instead of $24 on Steam but redeemed the key on steam while on a Linux client. I wonder if they still count it as Linux?

Apparently, Steam counts that platform on which the game is played most within the first 7 days of buying it:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/how-steam-computes-linux-sales.4675/

See my previous comments, that's only for direct Steam sales, keys purchased from outside are different. Keys are set for platforms.

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Quoting: FireDartI also bought Alien: Isolation on humble with the Windows icon since it was $12 instead of $24 on Steam but redeemed the key on steam while on a Linux client. I wonder if they still count it as Linux?

According to Feral & Bundle Stars if games don't have a Linux icon they don't count for Linux, as keys can be per-platform, it's different to buying directly from Steam.

I am unsure if this is how Humble operate though.

Edit: Seems Feral made it even more clear [External Link] about buying outside of Steam when there isn't a Linux icon:

Quoting: Edwin, Feral DeveloperThink of it like buying a physical boxed copy, if you buy a Windows boxed game from Amazon with a steam key you'd expect the game sale to be registered as a Windows sale even if you activated it on Linux. Buying from digital stores is the same, if you buy a Windows steam key from a store that reports as a Windows sale.
If you buy a Linux boxed copy (or digital key) from a store it counts as a Linux sale (even if you activate it on Windows).
Buying direct from Steam is different as no key is generated and you are buying directly with Valve this means they can track both the payment and the usage and assign the copy to the correct platform.
All this said you can buy keys from anywhere and they'll work just fine, it's the sale platform and revenue that is effected the customers experience is identical no matter the purchase method.
Hope that explains things.

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Quoting: STiAT

Quoting: PangachatJust watched some videos, something is wrong with this game for me, but don't know what is it O_o
I think i stick to Shroud of the Avatar yet, and maybe if this one releasing, i give it a chance.

I won't stick with SotA ... the scenes / permanent zoning and long loading times without SSD is just annoying me out of mind.

Not to mention Shroud is in a constant state of flux right now (with regular wipes), Albion Online is much further along in development.

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