Quoting: TheEnigmaticT

Quoting: Quote from liamdaweConsidering the comments we have explaining how easy it actually would be for you guys to support us (didn't realise you worked for GOG.com hello!) I see it a cop out. 

I don't want to re-post them as they all explained it better than me.

There's no nice way to say this, but I'm going to try: you are all thinking like Linux fans, not business people. You're only looking at upsides and positives, not the potential downsides and negatives. Let me explain:

Let's take an answer like helsinki_harbor's from right above me: these are all generally community-run projects. Let's suppose that we roll out Linux support and rely on one of those community-run projects to help us support GOG.com's Linux release. What happens if the community behind it decides it's sick of it and gives up? What happens if the project runs into idealogical problems and splits into two projects, each of which focuses on one particular area, but we need the output of both?

Well of course we are users not businessmen (most of us). We are trying to show you ways you can support us and trying to get you to see you can and will earn money from us.

You rely on dosbox and ScummVM for some games don't you? Aren't those community run projects? How is that different than using another one? What if no one maintains those projects for a while and updates in say Windows and Mac break them and no one is around to update those projects for GOG?

The linux support vote here: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/add_linux_versions_of_games [External Link] has nearly 12,000 votes on it, are those masses of people not a big enough percentage of your userbase to work with and earn money from?

The point is you don't need to support every game on GOG under Linux, hell you sure don't for Mac. Why not even for now to dip your toes in use the dosbox and ScummVM games? What is the problem with them? As you surely can't think you would have more issues with those projects on Linux than you would on Windows or Mac?

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Quoting: TheEnigmaticT

Quoting: Quote from liamdaweI have updated with the next answer, I have to agree now they are basically doing a cop-out and using any reason they can not to support us considering what they just said.

 Okay, I'll bite. How is that a cop out? You're a fan of Linux, I get it. I have two computers which use Linux--PupEEE Linux and a Mint one--so it's not like I'm opposed to the OS. 

The answer I gave wasn't "marketing B.S." It was the truth. The economics don't work out. I understand that you're all fans of the OS and you're part of an active community that is passionate and dedicated--all things that have gotten GOG.com where we are today--but you're also part of a *small* community. And until we create a better way to actually scale the labor required to test and master builds, it's not economically feasible for us to support even *one* Linux distribution, much less the three that we've targeted as providing a broad enough reach to make us feel happy about moving into the space and doing it right.

I'll admit that this is disappointing news for you guys, I'm sure, but I don't see why it's a source of vitriol.  I would think the fact that we've clearly thought about this in depth--and that we have a pathway for what we need to do in order to implement Linux support--should be more promising than discouraging. Sure, it's not Linux support today, but I think that our investigations and attention in this matter show that, while we're still a small company that's trying to make the best use of our limited staff that we can, this is definitely something that we believe is worth figuring out.  

Considering the comments we have explaining how easy it actually would be for you guys to support us (didn't realise you worked for GOG.com hello!) I see it a cop out. 

I don't want to re-post them as they all explained it better than me.

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Updated with their 3rd reply, will not be asking them any more questions as it seems fruitless.

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Quoting: Linas

Quoting: QuoteFixed script errors when the system locale used commas instead of periods as the decimal separator - A fix a lot of Linux users will no doubt love

That does not seem to be fixed. I can only start playing if I start steam with C locale. Otherwise the screen just remains black. It is build 255, I checked.

That's a pain! Make sure to report it on their forum!

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I have updated with the next answer, I have to agree now they are basically doing a cop-out and using any reason they can not to support us considering what they just said.

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Quoting: DrMcCoyLots of stuff.

Freedom of choice is great, but when the choice can be overwhelming and when that choice brings with it many many different ways for doing the same thing it can become a problem.

Your other points are valid but it doesn't change the fact that it is extra work for developers (work in researching all these different ways and work actually doing them), work some don't want to do and they don't have to, it is after all their choice. We are the ones that chose an operating system with very low use rates compared with the others.

Don't get me wrong I obviously love Linux and gaming, these are just my personal opinions, I am allowed to have them.

As perfectly pointed out by our new member commodore256 you are a very far above average user, if you feel so strongly, why not send them your wise words yourself? :)

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I have asked them what their issue would be with stating they only support the major distro's using Unity and Steam as an example but it took me a week to get this answer so stay tuned.

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Quoting: DrMcCoyAlso, also:

Quoting: QuoteIt has often bugged me just how many distributions there are

Stop being stupid, liamdawe.

Quoting: Quotebut on Linux it is fair enough that it could be trouble for them when someone tries to install x game on "Look Ma I Built A Distro v4" that has some crazy new configuration somewhere

No, it's not. It's bullshit and they know it. Stop accepting said bullshit.

I am not being stupid for having a personal opinion of that I don't like the immense fragmentation we have, it is a valid point, why do you think Unity and Steam (possibly our two biggest players now) only official support Ubuntu?

How can I not accept what they (gog) say? It's their choice, not mine.

I hear time and time again from developers who tweet to me, email me, talk to me on IRC etc about being confused on what to do for all the distros, what package type to use (deb, rpm, tar). If it's a concern from developers, we should be concerned too.

Distrowatch alone shows 100 different distro's, don't like to use them for stats but it shows my point some more.

It is a valid point. Hell a developer even tweeted to me just now http://twitter.com/AeornFlippout/status/375698476199186432 [External Link] (Makers of Race The Sun).

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Yeah the A10 5800K, sadly I wasn't expecting myself to be doing videos but it's quite fun so If I want to do more I need the cores!

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Quoting: KamilUnfortunately it's not possible to pay with PayPal (probably because they are non-profit), and I'm not willing to give my credit card number to Indiegogo. The Donate button on your page also leads to some unknown untrustworthy website. This probably discourages more people, not just me. They should at least set up a Flattr button, if nothing else.

Just to check, by your do you mean theirs (0 A.D.) or ours?

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