I'll download it tonight. If they made the effort to look into Linux and release a demo, I can make the effort to look into their game and give it a try. :)

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I couldn't say if Elementary OS (EOS) is the most slick looking OS around, but its website is the slickest Linux OS website I think I've ever seen. The idea of having a built in picture-in-picture feature really caught my eye. I'd love to be able to watch a local movie whilst surfing the web or working on a project. Unfortunately, I can't tell from their website how truly customizable EOS is compared to, say, Xfce or Mate, so I don't know if it would be something I'm going to look more closely at.

I can say that I'm no fan of the Gnome-like app naming scheme, where apps don't have names so much as category titles. Video, Music, Camera, Files, etc., etc. --- these are the names of my Data files, the ones that I interact with using VLC, Shotwell, and Thunar. But that's just a personal-taste thing.

I've become ever less enamored with Flatpak apps. I've been let down a few too many times by apps not being regularly updated, or little problems interacting with the local system. Nothing like the pair of concrete shoes that are Snap packages, mind you, but not as easily used as Appimages either.

What I really want to know are those things that are pertinent to myself as a daily reader of www.gamingonlinux.com. How good is it as a gamingd OS? How easy is it to install Nvidia and AMD GPU drivers, for example? Especially the former, as EOS is FOSS-centric. What gaming peripherals work with EOS out of the box? Etc.

I'd like to hear from former and present EOS users here on GoL about their experiences with EOS.

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Whatever's going on here, it's nothing to do with Linux, or the community, or FOSS.

Microsoft is only about Microsoft, always has been, always will be.

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I applaud all the effort that went into this, especially the comprehensive (if rough draft-y) README.md. It's obvious that stl will be amazingly useful for people who love to fiddle with all things Linux. For plain Linux users such as myself? Maybe not so much. But if I'm honest, I'm fine with that! I think the last time I used a Steam launch option might have been PROTON_USE_D9VK=1 %command% just before D9VK was merged into Proton proper.

For me, if a game's not native Linux, then I have SteamPlay. If it's not SteamPlay, I have Wine. If it's not Wine, I have a entirely separate machine running Win7, which, it must be said, I haven't fired up in over a year. I just haven't needed to because I'm more likely to just not play a game then fire up that damn thing. :)

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All the proof I need that the Open Source movement has, at its core, people who are gregarious and community focused by nature, who want to share what they have with others for no other reason than they feel that it's the right thing to do.

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I'm looking forward to improved fractional scaling, and I like the look of the new icons too. The hiding-panel animation feels like so much fluff to me. I prefer the snappy "there/not-there" quality it has now. (Maybe they can be talked into making that optional.)

I tried Mate for a minute a few releases back, and I quite liked it, especially the way, like, "dark mode" settings worked for everything (it's pretty hit-or-miss in xfce currently). Mate's a really nice alternative to xfce ... except no notepad plugin. Turns out that was the ultimate deal-breaker for me.

I tried to convince the Mate devs to adapt xfce's notes plugin for Mate, like they have for some other xfce goodies, but they couldn't be bothered. "There's other apps that do that already," they said, incorrectly. There is simply nothing out there as straightforward and simple as xfce's "notes" panel plugin.

That and xfce's weather-plugin. Like everything in xfce, it's simple on the surface but presents increasing complexity the deeper you go. Current conditions on display in the panel with a simple forecast if one clicks on it. Hover over any part of the forecast, however, and one is given dreamily detailed weather info.

Oh and the timer plugin! That just went off to remind me I have a meeting soon. Again, super simple.

And finally, xfce's mascot is a mouse. The most lovable, adorable 'nix mascot since the penguin. :)

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It's all well and good to say that "It's just business" and "businesses have to make a profit." I get that. It's what makes business business, after all. But I entirely reject that --- as I believe Aspyr has done here --- a business must treat their customers haughtily, dismissively, or otherwise less than worthy of simple honesty or civility, in order to make a profit.

Aspyr said they were coming out with a patch, ignored us, for what --- a year? And now, after repeated requests for news, have finally deigned to admit that, no, they're doing no such thing? That's not a matter of profit. That's a matter of simple civility, on par with saying "hello" to someone who says "hello" to you, or "thank you" when someone does something nice for you.

Thank you Liam for staying on top of this story, for finally getting an answer out of the group of ne'er-do-wells that is Aspyr.

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It might be that I'm a bit spoiled using XFCE's launcher plugins for things like this (and one of the things that keeps me so, so deeply in love with the mouse-that-roars distro). To be fair, though, this app does make things one step simpler by writing the command for the user. It's nice non-mouse-eared folks can do this easily now. :)

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Before SteamPlay I used to download Windows games from itch.io directly from the site (not using the client) and try to get them running with Wine, with mixed results.

I stopped, though, when SteamPlay came along. I was immediately concerned about Wine and SteamPlay's Proton confusing each other. So now I'll do what I could have done back then: asked if anyone's had a problem with installing system-wide Wine on a system using SteamPlay (not stand-alone Proton).

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Quoting: liamSo how is progess? Great by the sound of it.

Stealth pun! :wink:

Quoting: liamAll the work going into it sounds quite impressive ...

Ouch! It's a one-two PUNch! :woot:

Seriously though, mebs this will get my system to sort out my MOBO's Realtek audio ports. Mic is shared with either line-in or side-speaker and using either results in a horrible, noisy connection. (I use a cheap external USB sound-card as a workaround.) Playing with pipe-wire is probs above my skill set at the moment, but I'll be interested to see where it goes.

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